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  1. keithr

    How Could Have Satan Sinned?

    But you're again ignoring what the Bible says (Rev 7:4-8 WEB): 4) I heard the number of those who were sealed, one hundred forty-four thousand, sealed out of every tribe of the children of Israel: 5) of the tribe of Judah were sealed twelve thousand, of the tribe of Reuben twelve thousand, of...
  2. keithr

    Hell . . . The Good News.

    Those verses are not refering to hell. They're part of Jesus' explanation of the parable of the wheat and tares. He says that "As therefore the tares are gathered up and burned with fire; so shall it be in the end of the world" (verse 40). That's followed by the verses you quoted, which...
  3. keithr

    Hell . . . The Good News.

    In the KJV the Hebrew word abaddon is always translated as 'destruction', rather than being left untranslated as it is in the ESV. It makes more sense when translated that way. Barnes Notes for Rev 9:11 says: The name Abaddon means literally destruction, and is the same as Apollyon. "But in...
  4. keithr

    How Could Have Satan Sinned?

    However, that's not what it says in Revelation! The church is already resurrected and in heaven, wearing crowns and sitting on thrones around God's throne. Then later an angel says, “Don’t harm the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, until we have sealed the bondservants of our God on their...
  5. keithr

    How Could Have Satan Sinned?

    The Bible does tell us more: ... that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil; (Heb 2:14) The devil who deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur, (Rev 20:10) Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second...
  6. keithr

    How Could Have Satan Sinned?

    I think that interpretation of who the 144,000 are is incorrect. Note that they are not said to be in heaven, they are on the earth. They are on the earth when they are sealed (Rev 7:1-4), and also they're on the earth when Jesus is with them on Mount Zion (Rev 14:1). To understand who they...
  7. keithr

    Hell . . . The Good News.

    Note that Jesus said, "...leads to destruction", i.e. it leads to death, not to eternal torture. "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord". (Romans 6:23). So we end up with either eternal death or eternal life. Paul makes no mention...
  8. keithr

    Hell . . . The Good News.

    Where does it say that in the Bible? Rev 9:11 is the only verse in the Bible where Apollyon is mentioned. No, the fire is symbolic, as is most of the Book of Revelation (Rev 1:1 [Darby] says, "Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave to him, to shew to his bondmen what must shortly take...
  9. keithr

    Hell . . . The Good News.

    Or as Luke puts it in Luke 12: 4) “I tell you, my friends, don’t be afraid of those who kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do. 5) But I will warn you whom you should fear. Fear him, who after he has killed, has power [authority] to cast into Gehenna. Yes, I tell you, fear...
  10. keithr

    Hell . . . The Good News.

    Please explain how you match up "Mystery of Iniquity" with reincarnation. That phrase only occurs once in the Bible, in 1 Tessalonians 2:7 : "For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way." (KJV) "For the mystery of...
  11. keithr

    Hell . . . The Good News.

    I take it literally. Jesus is saying that he has come from heaven, that we are from the earth but he is not. No, it means that we are "of this world". A more understandable translation is "The path of life leads upward for the wise, to keep him from going downward to Sheol" (WEB). It is not...
  12. keithr

    Hell . . . The Good News.

    I agree, that is not taught by the Bible. The KJV footnote gives the more precise meaning of the Hebrew. Instead of "in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die", it should say "in the day that thou eatest thereof, dying thou shalt die". In the very day that the ate the fruit...
  13. keithr

    How Could Have Satan Sinned?

    Precisely. (Rev 21:8) But for the cowardly, unbelieving, sinners, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their part is in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.” We live once, then die, are resurrected, then there is God's...
  14. keithr

    How Could Have Satan Sinned?

    "Inasmuch as it is appointed for men to die once, and after this, judgment" (Heb 9:27).
  15. keithr

    How Could Have Satan Sinned?

    I think you left out some crucial information too! ;) That quote was from Matthew chapter 5: 22) But I tell you, that everyone who is angry with his brother without a cause will be in danger of the judgment; and whoever says to his brother, ‘Raca!’ will be in danger of the council; and...
  16. keithr

    How Could Have Satan Sinned?

    Is hate a sin? Note Malachi 1:2,3 - “Wasn’t Esau Jacob’s brother?” says Yahweh, “Yet I loved Jacob; but Esau I hated, and made his mountains a desolation, and gave his heritage to the jackals of the wilderness”. So has God sinned? (See the quote from Romans 9 below for the apostle Paul's...
  17. keithr

    How Could Have Satan Sinned?

    How could Satan have sinned? I'd say that he didn't sin in heaven; he sinned when he was on the earth. But also you need to define what sin is. A sin is anything which a person does that causes upset, hurt, loss, distress, pain, or unhappiness to anyone else. It's effectively the opposite of...
  18. keithr

    The Seed of your Righteousness

    I think I have shown that the Trinity doctrine was not part of the Gospel that Paul preached, and was not part of the doctrine of the early church. The Protestant churches were formed because they were "protesting" against the many doctrinal errors of the Roman Catholic church. They removed...
  19. keithr

    When was Jesus born?

    Jesus was crucified in 33AD. Daniel 9:27 tells us that Jesus' ministry would last 3.5 years (half of a "week" of seven years). He began his ministry when he was thirty years old (Luke 3:23). Therefore he would have been born 33.5 years before Passover 33AD, which is about the beginning of...
  20. keithr

    The Seed of your Righteousness

    Yes, most definitely. Jesus confirmed it in Rev 1:18, "I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore". The Bible tells us that those who are dead are unconscious - "there is no work or planning or knowledge or wisdom in Sheol, where you are going" (Ecc 9:10)...