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  1. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    The "remain in him by keeping His commands" is a general rule for all branches that issue from the Vine; among those branches that issue from the Vine, some are "children", some are "young men", some are "fathers". Not difficult. A disciple, a branch, being thrown in the fire for not bearing...
  2. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    I asked Let's hear your gobbledygook answer.
  3. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    Are you saying Jesus was baptized "into John"? Was Jesus "in John" as we are "in Christ"? Makes no sense. No, being "in Christ" is juxtaposed against being "in the flesh" (Ro 7). Christ "became a life giving spirit" (1 Co 15), so we are "in the spirit, not in the flesh" when we are "in Christ"...
  4. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    They were saved from physical slavery in Egypt by Passover. We are saved from spiritual slavery in satan's kingdom by Christ our Passover. They sinned after salvation and were destroyed under wrath and forfeited the promise. If we sin after salvation the same goes for us. Being saved from...
  5. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    Yup, it's obedience, because God's command is you believe in the Name of His Son (1 Jn 3:23). God gives a command, and it is obedience to do it.
  6. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    LOL So John means one thing, and Paul means something else? Are you saying that because you finally realize John is explicit that we remain "in Him" by keeping His commands? Denying they speak of the same thing to preserve your doctrine. Interesting "exegetical" tactic.
  7. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    They were saved from Egypt by Passover, and we are saved from slavery to sin through "Christ our Passover". They were saved in a type, not saved as an antitype as we are. Their salvation pointed to the reality of our salvation, it wasn't the real salvation that we have. Still, as Paul says, it...
  8. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    Yeah, God did His righteousness, and God does His righteousness today : "obey, for it is God is at work in us to will and to do for His good pleasure". When God is at work in us to will and to do for His good pleasure, is that not God's righteousness?
  9. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    The Jews, through Passover, were saved, but they still sinned in the wilderness, so God destroyed them in His wrath, and they forfeited what was promised--this was written down to teach us who, through "Christ our Passover Lamb", are saved, that if we live in sin after being saved we will also...
  10. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    How is God's righteousness "a righteousness of my own"?
  11. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    Yep, He saved us--and, according to 1 Co 10, He showed us that if we live sinfully after that salvation, we'll still be destroyed in His wrath and not inherit the promise, like the Jewish Christians were "storing up wrath" for their hypocrisy in Ro 2. As Ro 14:23 shows, the Christian who...
  12. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    Walking in faith is not works/self righteousness, it is grace/God's righteousness.
  13. GracePeace

    Matthew 18 - Is Jesus Lying Or Are You Lying?

    ? All sins are debts, so all the sins in your "list" would be "debts".
  14. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    "Works" pertains to "a righteousness of my own", but "God's righteousness is revealed from faith to faith", so when someone walks in faith, that is not the "filthy rags" of "a righteousness of my own", but "fine linen bright and clean" (Rv 19:7,8) of God's righteousness--accordingly, the one who...
  15. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    Sounds like you're interested in the idea that there are standalone verses. I'm not. I encourage you to post your own thread about it, not commandeer someone else's thread.
  16. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    So, you believe in "stand alone" Scripture verses--based on that, it seems there is no argument reconciling seemingly irreconcilable verses that will interest or persuade you. Sounds good. Enjoy your conclusions.
  17. GracePeace

    Trusting in God's Promises? or fearing the circumstances? (Numbers 13:1-15:41)

    The "one law" (Ex 12:49) all believers are "under" (Ro 6:14) is "each man must be fully convinced in his own mind" (Ro 14:23), living "as unto the Lord" "with thanks" (Ro 14:6). The Christian knows Jesus, Whose Name is "God Is Our Righteousness" (Jer 23:6). "God's righteousness is revealed from...
  18. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    Your basic argument against the OP is that "Scripture is not consistent with itself--it contradicts itself--so there's no point in trying to make it make sense". On how many levels is it incoherent? Are any of its sentences coherent? If that's your argument, then enjoy your conclusions--I have...