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It has worked. Did you care to address how it has worked?

1. "No condemnation for those in Christ" is not up for debate, because it is a word-for-word quote from Romans 8:1. 2. It seems you did not read the OP before responding to it, because, if you had, you would've (or should've) understood that it is promulgating a view that (at least, to me, it...

I'm not going to pursue this discussion with you any further unless you interact with the OP--the same way you used a random example, you can take the purport of the OP, and explain how you think it results in "one weird religion". What is "normal" and what is "weird"--what do you claim the...

"Interesting" : no one in the early church held to what you hold to. No one "understood" Scripture as you do. Your "understanding" came with Luther and Calvin. The early church read the Scriptures similar to how I do. So, the early church, taught by the apostles, got it wrong, but Luther and...

Yeah, someone who remains "in Christ" continues to be eligible to receive the Spirit that is only "in His Son" (1 Jn 5:11)--but Scripture, again, has the condition that people "remain" in Him. If the Bible taught that it happened without exception, automatically, the teaching and command to...

You explicitly denied they were believers. I don't know why you are confused.

Romans 7 shows Paul was a "slave" to sin--had no choice. Romans 8 speaks of Paul's saved state--still the contingency "IF you walk according to the flesh you will die" is given. 1 Corinthians 10 shows that the Jews' salvation from slavery was about Christianity--just as they sinned after they...

Are you saying you agree or disagree--or, specifically, why you agree or disagree.

Yeah, and? The children are warned to abide in Him or else they will not have confidence (confidence is from obeying God's commands) and will shrink back in shame at His appearance. What happens then? They are thrown in the fire--as Heb 10:38,39 says "My Righteous one will live by faith but if...

The issue is that if he acknowledges that belief is a commandment (1 Jn 3:23,24), then he'll have to admit that remaining in Christ is by obeying commands--and that that handily explains why there is no condemnation for those in Christ but the believer who sins in Romans 14:23 is condemned...

Please clarify what your objection is.

You were the one who raised the topic of "Apollos".

BELIEF ITSELF IS OBEDIENCE

Before, you argued that the "children" referred to in 1 Jn 2:28 weren't really believers. Now, you accept, seemingly, that they are believers, but you deny the command "remain" means anything with respect to whether there is a contingency (there clearly is). John didn't say "get into Christ"...

1. Ro 7 shows a man was "without strength" getting pummeled by sin, bc it overpowered him qnd made him act sins contrary to the law of his mind That he called "slavery"--there is no choice. Now that we are rescued from slavery, there is a choice--we know this based on 1 Co 10. The Jews were...

Nope, the command to "remain" is repeated to the spiritually immature disciples, branches, the "children". Commands aren't given for automatic occurrences. They're given where there're CONTINGENCIES. Yeah, "if you keep God's commands". Nope, that verse says God is glorified when you bear much...

False teachers were present even in the 1st generation, so I'm not saying "Whatever the Early Church says is immutable", but isn't it interesting that none of them interpreted Scripture in such a way as to arrive at Monergism or general eternal Security? Just meant it as a quick comment, not to...

What do you mean by "observance of the Mosaic Law"?

Their "ideas" were held by no one in the early church--that's why they can't prove their beliefs from Scripture, as evinced in this thread.

I only said I want to follow Scripture, not just mindlessly follow people just because they have varying measures of grace due to what they believe (without what they believe having complete coherence)--you raised the issue of the distinctions about Arminianism, etc.