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  1. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    I had pointed out that not all remain, because John, addressing the "children", commanded them to "remain"--if it happens automatically, and nothing other than that has a possibility of occurring, then there would be no need for a command--and your response was to attempt to redefine "children"...
  2. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    Why would it be "burying the lede" for me to point out that you already admitted that some who are in Christ sin sins unto death that separate them from Christ?
  3. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    No, you said there is a difference between sins, and some who are in Christ sin sins unto death (eternal life is knowing God, so sinning unto death would be to interrupt fellowship). It seems you admitted the same. Yes, that is obeying the first part of the Command to believe in the Name of...
  4. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    1. Paul couldn't figure out whar Apollos could've been baptized into, because for him it was synonymous, at that point, with being baptized in the Name of Jesus for the remission of sins and receiving the Holy Spirit, so, it turned out that that message had not yet reached Apollos, but he had...
  5. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    So, now we agree that there are some who abide in Christ who cease to abide, and that it's because they go away to chase sin? 1. I want to come back to this in a bit because it is a good objection, which may assist in arriving at a better understanding for me, but I have a couple things to do...
  6. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    Not sure which part isn't clear. Paul sought to bring about the obedience of faith (Ro 1:5).
  7. GracePeace

    Matthew 18 - Is Jesus Lying Or Are You Lying?

    I laughed bc it seemed comical that you would have an issue seeing the debt referred to as sin... and sinners go to torment.
  8. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    @CadyandZoe Ro 14 is a snapshot, an illustration, of what it means to be "not under Law but under grace", to "serve in newness of the Spirit not oldness of the letter". They're "not under the jurisdiction of the law", but they're still "under" something--they're "under the jurisdiction" of the...
  9. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    14:23 he does something he does not have full confidence is correct, thus breaking the law of faith (Ro 1:17, 3:27, 14:5).
  10. GracePeace

    No Law : Under Grace

    If you deny that faith is counted as righteousness, you are denying, suppressing, the truth that God does the right thing and forgives and cleanses us of all unrighteousness. He doesn't do the wrong thing--hold a grudge. He does the right thing--He glorifies Christ by forgiving us for His sake...
  11. GracePeace

    No Law : Under Grace

    Nope. Romans 4 5However, to the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the wicked, his faith is credited as righteousness. 6And David speaks likewise of the blessedness of the man to whom God credits righteousness apart from works: 7“Blessed are they whose lawless acts are...
  12. GracePeace

    No Law : Under Grace

    "How did you receive the Spirit? By hearing of faith or works of the Law?"--two ways of righteousness/eligibility for eternal life. "Faith is counted as righteousness."
  13. GracePeace

    No Law : Under Grace

    Believing is the righteousness of God apart from the Law whereby we are gifted the blessing of Abraham, the Spirit, which is eternal life; a righteousness of my own would be by the Law, the knowledge of good and evil, which invariably leads (has since Adam) to the curse of death.
  14. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    If being "in Christ" were about baptism, in particular, then wouldn't "not remaining" have to involve getting "un-baptized"? "Remaining" "in Christ", rather, is about keeping God's command to i) believe and ii) walk in love/faith (1 Jn 3:23,24)--that's the only way to reconcile Ro 8:1 with Ro 14:23.
  15. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    Obviously, some remarks I make are shorter, and some are more "comprehensive". They heard the Gospel and received the Spirit. They began by the Spirit but were seeking perfection by flesh (law). They had run well but were hindered after. They had been with God but were deserting Him. They had...
  16. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    Patient is an understatement. I have been the worst person I have known. Thanks!
  17. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    Yep, it's about Christ, and it has implications for what it means for His disciples to be abiding in Him--and 1 Jn 3:23,24 says if we keep His commands we abide in Him (also Jn 15). Keeping commands is not sinning. It's the opposite of sinning. See how that works? Then we see those who break His...
  18. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    By "a little more", do you mean that I would change my mind? That's not going to happen without actual substantive reasons. When I look at the constellation of remarks Paul issues, the matter is transparent. Galatians 3 1O foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you? Before your very eyes Jesus...
  19. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    It actually is. Already did it, and God, on various fronts (various reasons), objected to it. If you're living like God is threatening you, that is construed as a lie against God, because that's not the "arrangement" we have with God. Lying about God is not faith, so how can you have grace in...
  20. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    Yeah, I have been through a lot--you couldn't believe, you'd think i was lying--and it has shaken my faith to its very foundations. I need certainty. That only comes from the written word. That's what I've been aiming at since about 2009. Godliness comes from Grace--my dissenters have Grace, but...