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  1. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    He cried for God not to take His Spirit away--and, yes, all sin is idolatry ("no covetous man who is an idolater"), hence 1 Jn 2:28, 5:21.
  2. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    I know that you and many other numbskulls here know God. I don't deny that. I know that you, at least sometimes, actually want to help me. The reality is, though, that you do not hold a coherent view of Scripture. I'm here to talk about Scripture. You may know God without having a coherent view...
  3. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    Really? Why, then, did Paul warn "Anyone who disregards this [prohibition on immorality] disregards not man but God Who gives you His Spirit"--why did David, after committing adultery, cry, "Do not cast me away from Your Presence, do not take Your Holy Spirit away from me!" if God would never...
  4. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    @Taken And again they are an example of the fact that we remain by obeying (1 Jn 3:23,24).
  5. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    It says Paul preached the Gospel, they believed, they received the Spirit. It says they "ran well" but were now being hindered from obeying the truth. They had believed, but were no longer believing. Hence Paul was "again" in labor pains trying to form Christ in them again (Gal 4:19). You keep...
  6. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    Not really sure what this is about. More empty emotional ranting.
  7. GracePeace

    Matthew 18 - Is Jesus Lying Or Are You Lying?

    People who fellowship with God act to bring others into fellowship with God (1 John 1). That is what it means to live for God's glory--you reveal God's righteousness (Ro 1:17, 3:27, 14:5), and the result is that others come into fellowship with Him, or, if they are Christian, are edified. I...
  8. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    Paul says they received the Spirit, but now had gone awry. You say "no". What can I say? I accept that you reject what Paul says.
  9. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    I really am not sure what "lesson" I'm supposed to learn by you not being on topic, ranting emptily, being emotional. "I, @Taken, WILL BE EMOTIONAL, OFF-TOPIC, AND RANT EMPTILY AND MEANINGLESSLY!" Is that my "lesson"? I already learned that a long time ago. I learned that when ever you chime...
  10. GracePeace

    Matthew 18 - Is Jesus Lying Or Are You Lying?

    Anyway, we're getting off on a tangent. Do you believe what Jesus said about the subject--that God can forgive someone's sins, so they are saved, but, afterward, rescind that forgiveness, so that they are no longer saved?
  11. GracePeace

    Matthew 18 - Is Jesus Lying Or Are You Lying?

    Yeah, that's the topic. Matthew 7 15Beware of false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. 16By their fruit you will recognize them. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a...
  12. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    @Taken Because the post is not correctly formatted, I cannot "reply" to it. Paul says in Galatians 3 that they had received the Spirit because they had "begun" by the spirit, but that they were now, by means of believing a false Gospel, trying to be perfected by the flesh, so, no, we know for...
  13. GracePeace

    Matthew 18 - Is Jesus Lying Or Are You Lying?

    I think you think "I never knew you" "proves" they were never "truly believers", but I think you need to remember that Ezekiel 18 says God can "forget" righteousness--which actually goes to the OP, where God rescinds forgiveness, which means that the person's faith, which, in the NT, is "counted...
  14. GracePeace

    Matthew 18 - Is Jesus Lying Or Are You Lying?

    So, you are defining the false prophets of Matthew 7 as people whom the Lord had forgiven--ie, as truly believing, saved, children of God?
  15. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    Well, in a discussion, it is expected that the topic be discussed. You can be a brute, and rampage all over the place. I don't have the "authority" to stop that. You're right. I would expect Christians to behave differently though.
  16. GracePeace

    Matthew 18 - Is Jesus Lying Or Are You Lying?

    So you accept what Jesus says in Matthew 18--that God can and will rescind forgiveness from some? I'm not saying it's instantaneous. The timing is not the point.
  17. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    1. Your answer is "they weren't true believers", but Paul debunks that when he says "You ran well. Who hindered you from obeying the truth?" (Gal 5:7). 2. Please respond to the topic--Romans 8:1 and Romans 14:23.
  18. GracePeace

    Matthew 18 - Is Jesus Lying Or Are You Lying?

    First, let me ask : do you accept that God can rescind forgiveness?
  19. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    Sounds great, actually. LOL You literally ask the same questions that have been answered year after year, whereas I keep finding more and more evidence against your views.