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Christ is the word, but he is not ink on a page, and he is living. In the same sense, we are to be living epistles, written in the heart. It is by the spirit that we are quickened and made alive.

38 But you do not have His word abiding in you, because whom He sent, Him you do not believe. 39 You search the Scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life; and these are they which testify of Me. 40 But you are not willing to come to Me that you may have life. End of...

Your madness is that you put this on the very words of Jesus. God's word is a great tool in his hand... To point us to him, and his son.

It is impossible to achieve understanding without the Spirit of God.

Who taught him as a child? You use one scripture to deny another, rather than understanding their harmony. Do you really think championing one side of scripture to deny the other equates truth? Pharisees also used scriptures from their youth. The truth is given of the spirit.

If you think you are so easily rid of me, it is not so. Don't get me wrong, I don't say this to be contentious :) But over matters like this, I do not fight lightly. Unless we follow the Lord, we have no light. Many think they have light, but it is the light of their own certainty of...

Jesus states... 38 But you do not have His word abiding in you, because whom He sent, Him you do not believe. 39 You search the Scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life; and these are they which testify of Me. 40 But you are not willing to come to Me that you may have life.

How much more straightforward can it be? 38 But you do not have His word abiding in you, because whom He sent, Him you do not believe. 39 You search the Scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life; and these are they which testify of Me. 40 But you are not willing to come to Me...

The scriptures are good for edification, and the wise man finds the treasures hidden by God in them. But... 38 But you do not have His word abiding in you, because whom He sent, Him you do not believe. 39 You search the Scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life; and these are...

Indeed, we do learn as we grow, and to that I agree. Again, unless it is by the spirit, which you constantly deny, we are going nowhere and lost. The Lord does not say 'interpret me', but 'follow me'. We must follow after the spirit.

You show yourself to be graceful, brother! :) By our own power, we cannot, I agree. But by his spirit, we can overcome! That is what I believe. The Lord bless you

Timothy, but by what means? The anointing of the Lord. Those who lead God's people are the Lord's anointed, when it is done right. You still do not understand the primary message of the New Testament, brother; that we are given a new nature and the purpose is that the church as a body be built...

I absolutely agree. The thing is, God gives us of his spirit, and when we are there, we are like him. But then he moves aback, and we must be faithful. The purpose of our having the spirit is that we learn what the new nature is and the character of Christ. Then we have to choose the character...

I also think it has to do with our coming together. When we come together in submission to the Lord and his ways (not how it is done today) and seeking the spirit (as opposed to man's interpretation), then the spirit empowers us. Behind those who stand tall like Paul, there are men and women who...

Again, you do not understand what I am telling you. Unless the Spirit teaches us, we are taking our own interpretation and applying it, and fail. We are in a spiritual world, fighting a spiritual war, and we must walk in the spirit.

No brother, I have not reached this. The issue that is usually confused is being perfected by the flesh and while in the flesh, very different things. Jesus, did he have a body just like ours? He did. If we walk by the spirit, we will not fulfill the deeds of the flesh. He has given us power...

Amen Jake! You nail it right on... The issue is that we, as a whole, are not being the church. We have need to come together in HIS way, and seek him and experience him, that we might testify of him.

You confuse the issue once again. We do search the scriptures, but we do not search them seeking to put our own interpretation but the meaning that the Lord has, which is what they did. You also confuse it because they searched the scriptures and then believed. These men were not yet...

You miss the point again. The point is that it is by the spirit that we learn, by the work of God in us. If we interpret scripture, we will be wrong, one way or another. It must be the Lord who opens our spiritual understanding and eyes.

What you are saying amounts to say we are not freed from sin! You say we are under the same bondage :blink: No, John says if anyone claims to have no sin. It means we are wrong if we claim to never have sinned. If we walk perfectly in the Spirit, can sin dwell in us? No. We can overcome...