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  1. Earburner

    The Great Apostasy in the Church.

    The GWTJ is a metaphor of how all accepted or neglected God's two judgements, that are shown in John 3:18, and whether they did or did not "appear before the judgment seat of Christ", while in their mortal life. As I have said before, I don't use Revelation to interpret the NT scriptures, I use...
  2. Earburner

    The Great Apostasy in the Church.

    Premil has not grasped or understood the anguish of Jesus' twofold torment within Himself, when He prayed in the garden of Gethemane. For the very first time, within His eternity of being with His Father, He knew that He was going to be forsaken/abandoned by the Father. You KNOW the words that...
  3. Earburner

    The Great Apostasy in the Church.

    You are not understanding that after God the Father had forsaken (left/abandoned) Jesus' mortal body on the cross, upon His resurrection, the Father rejoined Jesus in his newness of Eternal Life, having Immortality. Therefore, being Himself "the firstborn from the dead", Jesus was the first...
  4. Earburner

    The Great Apostasy in the Church.

    Though I strongly disagree, I am well aware of how and why Premil takes the view about the Lord and the Saints reigning on earth for an additional 1000 years. However, you keep describing that "our God who is a consuming fire", shall return in flashes of lightning only, and therefore His act of...
  5. Earburner

    The Great Apostasy in the Church.

    Thanks for making that point about the Arrow after a person's name. I am sure that I have accidently used it, but I didn't make the connection that it referred me back to the person's post number for context.:) (I have deleted my suggestion about post numbers being added with partial quotes).
  6. Earburner

    The Great Apostasy in the Church.

    EB's reply: I only quoted what you said of when the unsaved suffer God's vengeance. You show it to be that some suffer his vengeance upon Jesus' return, and then the rest are strung out over a thousand years. Jesus' coming in [Eternal] flaming fire is the origin of all the world becoming a LAKE...
  7. Earburner

    The Great Apostasy in the Church.

    You don't understand Luke 17:28-30; 2 Thes. 1:7-10 and 2 Peter 3:3-7, 10, 12. The eternal flaming fire of Jesus' presence, is going to ignite the whole earth into a lake of fiery, molten lava, on a global scale.
  8. Earburner

    The Battle of Armageddon

    Call it what you like, the fact is the unsaved dead shall remain dead for all eternity. They are not remembered by God, because "He never knew them". Mat. 7:22-23; Rom. 8:9.
  9. Earburner

    The Battle of Armageddon

    Of course!! God the Father is a Spirit, and always will be a Spirit. That is why He manifested Himself through Jesus, His only begotten Son. Therefore, to see/perceive Jesus, is to see/perceive the Father. He is the express image of the Person of God the Father. Heb. 1:3 The ONLY way that God...
  10. Earburner

    The Battle of Armageddon

    Probably a wrong choice of words for your understanding, however I did clarify in post 103. Edit: 102
  11. Earburner

    The Battle of Armageddon

    God the Father dwells in Heaven, He dwells in Jesus, and now through Jesus (Rev. 3:20), He dwells within all born again Christians. Are you saying that God the Father is not within you? See John 14:17, 23.
  12. Earburner

    The Battle of Armageddon

    It's as plain as day. Every unsaved person who dies, stays dead for eternity, because they have no eternal existence of life within them of any kind.
  13. Earburner

    The Battle of Armageddon

    All the unsaved, who die without having faith in Jesus, recieve their just reward of eternal death immediately after their last breath. There is no second chance after that moment. They most surely will enter into eternity without Christ, having no eternal existence of any kind whatsoever. Do...
  14. Earburner

    The Battle of Armageddon

    God is already dwelling on this planet earth, by dwelling within the mortal earthen vessels of His born again Saints. The Holy Spirit within us is Himself, with His Righteousness "there-in". Being already "made ready", we are only waiting for Jesus to appear, so that we can be "changed" into...
  15. Earburner

    The Battle of Armageddon

    Which Jerusalem is it, that is being safely inhabited? The one that is fallen, or the one which is above? Zech. 14:11; Gal. 4:21-31
  16. Earburner

    The Battle of Armageddon

    God's concept about Himself to usward is not complicated. It is man that complicates the concept about God. The act of God's "vengeance" is the act of retribution, being that of His reward. His reward has three different levels of what is metered out to each individual by Him, being that of...
  17. Earburner

    The Great Apostasy in the Church.

    Such a question deserves a better answer! Jesus ministry was for three years, and John the baptist was for six months Jesus Himself, was the second of the two anointed ones, being a joint ministry, for 1260 days, aka "the two witnesses". John the Baptist arose from the grave AFTER Jesus...
  18. Earburner

    The Great Apostasy in the Church.

    That is how Premil understands it, as you showed in post #36: "Not the same day. Some destroyed at the second coming, the rest over a thousand years later". The Premil belief system causes one to deny KJV 2 Thes. 1:7-10. Anyone and everyone who IS NOT "born again" of God's Holy Spirit, DOES NOT...
  19. Earburner

    The Great Apostasy in the Church.

    Sure, I will give the details of scripture by the Holy Spirit, and not through the wisdom of men's doctrines, such as "all have an eternal soul", all are the children of God", "Pre-millennialism". 2 Thes. 1:7-10 [7] And to you who are troubled rest with us, WHEN the Lord Jesus shall be...
  20. Earburner

    The Battle of Armageddon

    In all of the KJV NT scriptures, there are only TWO prophetic "mothers" being spoken of. The one which is fallen, and the one which is above. Because of ignorance through the false doctrines of men, most of church-ianity is for the one which is fallen. Gal. 4:21-31.