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Except I did not make any such implication. If you took it that way, such was not my intention. Again: I'm sorry if that upsets you, but I cannot pretend that my experience has been otherwise. And I cannot lie about what I believe- and yes I know that it does not match what you've been told...

But it is truthfully my experience no one of ANY faith has been convinced of Truth via people arguing on forums. I'm sorry if that upsets you, but I cannot pretend that my experience has been otherwise. And I cannot lie about what I believe- and yes I know that it does not match what you've...

Constant flames from you!!! I don't even know where to start with this.

The my questions were posted to SoverginGrace, not Preacher. Obviously Preacher can state his thoughts, but I am more interested in SoverginGrace's answer.

I believe I have sovereignty: hence I am responsible for my sins. However, if I do not have sovereignty (such as believed in Calvinism), then I would not at all be responsible for any of my actions: good or bad. I would just be a falling rock. Hence my question.

Not at all: rather I have had a much different experience. I do really try hard to be respectful here, even when you blatantly do not. You are not SoverignGrace, to whom I addressed the question.

How do you blame something that has no sovereignty? It's like you're picked up a rock, dropped it mid-air, and then said it's the rock's fault for falling.

Rose, let us all try to be respectful of people & beliefs even when there's disagreements.

Going to respectfully 100% diagree with you there. Please tell me plainly about the people God predestined to Hell & eternal torture, with no chance of salvation ever. Even plainly acknowledge that they exist.

No, it's a volunteer thing. So it's a most, but not remotely all. Same for the gals. Plus there's all the people whom join / re-join later in life.

Except you did not show me that at all. Nobody is convince of truthfulness via arguments on forums, they are pointless. I am trying really really hard to understand what you believe & how. I'm also trying really really hard to be respectful of these belief I so passionately disagree with (...

(Stepping away from pointless arguments) Again, I'm not trying to change you beliefs. Rather trying to understand what you believe and how.

Missionaries do, which are mostly there because ... well, young people can be really dumb sometimes (sorry, but to call it how it is). Everyone else: not really. I don't drink, but frankly i don't feel like i'm missing out (I can look stupid all on my own thank you!)

Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, nicknamed "LDS" or "Mormons".

John 3:16, which I know that you're just going to say "well the world doesn't actually mean the world and all the people in it". But again, I'm not trying to change your beliefs. I want to understand your beliefs. Understand how it is you believe what you do.

There's a HUGE difference between: A) Somebody who creates falling people with no parachute. B) Somebody who gives each and every single person a parachute (the Savior), and begs & teaches them to use it. Christ is the High Priest for the whole world. The one and only Savior.

I believe that a loving God gives each and every person a chance to accept Him and His grace. Now: If you believe it's ok that God created some people he predestined to hell, but it's ok because he also to save some others, please just say so.

My current ordained bishop is a ... ok I don't remember his day job. The last was a press person. The one before that an accountant, etc. No body is more important than another, but structure is still there.

SovereignGrace, I've asked the same question of you many times now and I'm admittedly loosing patience. If you believe it's ok that God created some people he predestined to hell, but it's ok because he also to save some others, please just say so. The not acknowledging the full implications...

Do you acknowledge that you believe God created people he predestined to go to hell for eternity: created trapped/blinded, and left there with zero chance of accepting the Savior? If not, please tell me how you believe God gives every single person the chance to accept Him.