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It seems the futurists view us as each other's clone. Yet their doctrine is almost verbatim that of Tony Warren @ Mountain Retreat. For several years now he has taught this doctrine regarding "this generation" as the generation of evil doers that both RB & TS are almost in complete lock step...

What we shall be when we are PHYSICALLY resurrected from the grave is a physical body + the breath of life (spirit) to be a complete living soul. We do not become a spiritual body when we are bodily resurrected immortal and incorruptible, we will have a spirit which is the breath of life just...

Why don't you tell me where you believe the GWTJ shall take place, because according to John it won't be on the earth because he writes "the earth and heaven fled away" from the face of Him that sat on the throne. Wherever the GWTJ shall be it won't be on this earth. Revelation 20:11-15...

Yes the physical resurrection shall be in an hour coming when the last trumpet sounds. But all who die in Christ are raised a spiritual body for heaven when our natural physical body dies. That's because the hour that NOW IS, is when all who hear His Word and believe on Him HATH everlasting...

You don't seem to understand that when we are in Christ not even death shall make the chosen generation pass! Death is simply a transitioning from this physical mortal body of death on this earth to a spiritual body alive in heaven. Christ does not say after all things are fulfilled THEN they...

You have not rightly understood what Paul is telling us. He is showing us not only how we are raised a spiritual body of believers after our flesh is dead, and also showing us that when the last trumpet sounds our flesh shall also be resurrected immortal & incorruptible that death may be...

Did you not notice when Paul says this pphysical change shall happen? He says we shall be changed at the last trumpet. According to Rev 10:5-7 when the last/seventh trumpet begins to sound "there should be time no longer" and "the mystery of God should be finished." How can you force more...

It makes zero sense to believe that immortal & incorruptible flesh will be in heaven because physical flesh is created for life on the earth not heaven. Heaven is a spiritual habitation, not the habitation for physical beings. And as Scripture shows us none shall be immortal and incorruptible...

Let me try to make myself clearer then. "This generation" that Christ says shall not pass until all things are fulfilled, though living together on the same earth with an evil generation that shall also continue to be until the end of days, is the "chosen generation" that Christ wants His...

In what body are the saints in heaven with the Lord? None will be immortal & incorruptible before an hour coming when the last trumpet sounds and time shall be no longer. They cannot be in heaven clothed in mortal flesh and blood, because flesh and blood shall not inherit the Kingdom of God...

I completely agree! But we also have to learn to study for ourselves and not follow doctrine that is not logical or makes no sense. After reading and studying Warren's articles on eschatology his understanding of "this generation" which aligns with what both you and TS have said, does not fit...

So does the chosen generation. I agree, but the evil generation Christ was addressing were of the Jews, that are of Israel. They were not the beginning of the evil generation of mankind, nor are they the end. Just as with the chosen generation, whom Christ spoke directly to, they too have...

Because his physical body was not alive! No flesh will be physically resurrected from the dead until an hour coming, when the last trumpet sounds and time shall be no longer. Daniel's ascended with Christ a spiritual body after Christ arose from the grave. Paul writes that when our body is...

You're not getting the power of the life giving Holy Spirit within you! I shall be spiritually alive after my flesh breathes its last through the power of the Spirit from Christ within me. I know this with blessed assurance because Christ has promised His Spirit will not leave us, but shall be...

Yes, I agree, you also are more than welcome to prove what you allege!

Yes, I thought I recognized the doctrine you both espouse. I am very familiar with Tony's teaching, and have learned greatly from him. I've read and studied many in fact probably most of his articles, and I too find him to be a Godly man, teaching truth, but like you, Tony too is a futurist...

I'm curious about both you and tribulationsigns, are both/either of you familiar with the site Mountain Retreat, moderated by Tony Warren?

Really? I would suggest that is you!

I've never said ungodly mankind shall pass away before the end of days! The focus of the Discourse is not on ungodly mankind, it is words spoken to the "chosen generation" of Christ from the first century AD to the end of days. Neither have I said the saints of Christ need to perish when all...

Christ was physically dead, but His spirit was given into the Father's hand. The spirit of Christ returned to God alive in the same way every born again believers spirit returns to God. We are alive after physical death spiritually, just as Christ was, through His Spirit within us. This is...