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Of course I know how misunderstood Christianity is, but making up new names for us is not going to help. And...your 'definition', whatever that may be, is so much clearer? If it 'baffles you' to hear the term "In Christ", then you haven't read Paul at all, and that is distressing. And if you...

Again, you seem to miss the point. Do we have salvation now? Of course. We are indeed 'in Christ' now, with all that implies. However, do we have everything that Christ's death on the cross accomplished...for us, or for the whole creation? No. We see this quite clearly in scripture: Future...

I can live with that.

I'm not really sure of your point here. Are you saying that Paul is covering both redeemed and unredeemed here? That, in essence, even unsaved people will have a new, everlasting body as well? Because...sure, I'm not arguing the fact that unsaved people will 'last forever' in their judgement...

I think this depends on whether or not Revelation is a book that is meant to be read in chronological order or not. If the events that happen in Rev 20 happen in time after Christ's physical return in Rev 19, then yes, there is a problem. However, I don't believe Revelation is supposed to be...

Hey....I'll look at it when time permits, thanks!

Way to go on TOTALLY missing my point. My point: there are only two states: in Christ and not in Christ. I don't care what you call it. Most people call being In Christ a Christian...why? We follow Christ. It is not up to us to defend such label against fake Christians. What it is up to us to do...

I agree that everyday hardships are a part of life. The bible teaches it and it is self evident. I also agree that we can expect such things to increase as we approach the end ('birth pang' references). However, as I showed in my last post reply to you, the verses that talk of wrath and...

I am not arguing that God does not have righteous wrath against the ungodly. He MUST have wrath against the ungodly, or he would not be just, or good, or even loving. What I am saying is that when we look at the bible passages that talk about God 'pouring out' his wrath on the ungodly, and our...

Here's how I see Revelation clearly describing Johns vision. The revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show to his servants the things that must soon take place. He made it known by sending his angel to his servant John, who bore witness to the word of God and to the testimony of...

Do you know what "Christian" means? It first popped up in the early church when followers of Jesus were referred to as "little christ's"...because their behavior, speech and desire to follow him. In the bible it is referenced as such...people who were disciples, members of the church, those who...

For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ shall all be made alive. But each in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, then at his coming those who belong to Christ. Then comes the end, when he delivers the kingdom to God the Father after destroying every rule and every authority and power. For...

Well...see, I'd have to say it's not so cut and dried as that. If we're only looking at 1 Cor 15 then yes, you're right, it is only speaking to those saved. However, if we can piece together various verses from across scripture that speak of these events as being one and the same, then the issue...

Hi Trekson, no worries! Although, I apologise...this will be a little long. I see where you're going with this, and while yes...it may initially appear to hold some validity, I must say that on deeper reflection, the "firstfruits" Romans is talking about, is not quite the same as 1 Cor 15. Let...

When we consider "how" things "could" be in the new heavens and earth, we could just go wild. Anything is possible with God, is it not? So, sure...He could make it that we didn't need to breath. This is probably going to be launching into another topic and that wasn't really my aim, but it sort...

Tchh. How naughty of me. To not do something I didn't sign on for in the first place. If you make a claim and someone asks for you to back it with scripture, is it really their job to look it up as "homework"? Isn' that just you being lazy? Oh, goodness. You just totally miss the whole point of...

Please relax. I answered generally, as two people asked a similar question and I thought it would be easier to answer both in a general manner. If you want specifics, I'm quite happy to give them. 1 Thess 4:17 has the words "caught up", which in the Greek is "harpazo", which means "to seize...

Does it matter what the "units" are called? Clearly they can be "converted" into miles, which you already know the distance of. Said actual measurements of this city would mean the people living up top would need a re-breather...you know, from lack of atmosphere...hence my point of the...

That was sort of my point. We are not told that anyone is currently occupying, so I thought it was a bit of a leap to say there was. But...you know me...I like to ask for verses to see if or where the idea being promoted, came from. Again, this was my point. 12 is symbolic. It's not that the...

I think you're missing the point of the dimensions given for the 'city'. In the Greek translation it is not "miles" that is given, and thus the numbers are 12,000. It's dimensions, we are told, are "foursquare", 12,000 in length, width and height. Where do we see those numbers in Revelation...