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Isn't it strange how you can't understand me in the present day but give plenty of commentary on what was written thousands of years ago ....which you think you understand.

You just don't get why I've asked this particularly in its context or you don't want to know.

In that case I wonder why you make so many words?

hmmm, as I thought. You ask things you don't want to know and don't ask about that which you aught to know.

Why do you want to know that Jack? You wouldn't believe me if I told you anyway!

Ohhhh, when you said 'my fairytale imagination' I thought for a moment maybe I got my description about God frying folk wrong. Perhaps you thought he was lining them up for tea and scones? .....but no, unfortunately you have confirmed my original suspicions in your post above .....and your...

No doubt Adam had many conversations with God audibly before the fall. What I addressed was after the fall, not before it and not about anything audible but what they 'heard' in their reality. Here's an attempt to describe how and what they 'heard' Before the fall all was harmony with Man and...

They never heard an audible word rather sin shifted their perception...both of God, others and themselves. It made them self centred rather than other centred. Their default was now selfish and fearful and their defence mechanism is hiding and fear with self as the priority. They are now hearing...

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I know Jack, I know, you are persuaded that billions will get around with a red hot skewer up their backsides for eternity while their feet are roasting on red hot metal plates with needle sharp spikes protruding. In your view They have been given immortality just like God has so that they...

Could we see it another way? For instance, God's mercy was on display in that he removed them from the temptation if not possibility to eat of the Tree of a Life. Could we deduct that had they eaten of the Tree of Life, there would have been no end to a sinful disposition? I'm not sure if that...

This is the statement... What they heard (internally) was condemnation and their defence was to blame, to find fault, Adam with God, Adam with Eve, Eve with the serpent. This was now their new 'go to' and it initiated the human default. God on the other hand sought them out 'as was his...

Our 'natural' definitions/ understanding of God's love, of his justice and judgement require revisiting. Without this we will superimpose/ project fallen human assumptions onto God. How do we revisit this? By hearing and observing the only eyewitness and unmitigated revelation of God....namely...

The God we ultimately worship is defined by the character we defend he has. This definition is also manifested in our attitudes and behaviour towards 'the least of these my brethren....Jesus. Jesus warned us, 'be careful HOW you hear' Luke 18:18 Here's an example of poor 'hearing'. After A&E...

The assumption that their death was initiated from God flies in the face of Jesus statement 'I have come that they may have life abundantly' God does not induce fear which is what was produced when these guys dropped dead. What is reinforced in this event is Jesus' statement prefacing 'I have...

Re Ananias and Sapphira .... The revelation of the truth which they conspired to conceal was too much for their emotional/ mental system. They died of heart/ brain failure induced by instant emotional/ mental overload.....as is, 'their hearts failing them for fear' idea.

I don't view it like that (one of discomfort) I will say however that the severity of God seen independent of Jesus informs the logic of man's disposition to violence. For example, consider the amount of posts on hell and punishment and their justifications as opposed to presenting Jesus so that...

We must see Jesus through the Father's eyes and we must see the Father through Jesus' eyes. This will give us balance. Any other view (and there are many) distort, malign and misrepresent the heart of God......irrespective of how learned or pious they appear.

Well there yer go...you've decided on labels (they become your defining 'end of story') and more than that, your definition of labels informs you without understanding HOW and WHY others use them...in their context.

You are spinning off into all sorts of imagining and projection Behold.