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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    Just because Harold Camping erred greatly (I am familiar with his doctrine) greatly, you do greatly err also if you put all Amils with the same brush with his erroneous doctrine. There is one thing I highly praise Camping for, and that was his constant admonition to all who listened him, was...
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    IMO, I believe Christians will know, and won't be surprised as others who are not looking and waiting for the Lord to come again. I believe we shall know because Satan and his minions will have silenced (spiritually killed) the two witnesses through lawfare, which I believe is the Word of God...
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    Who throughout the earth called Gog & Magog is going to come to a Christian to be saved. Gog means antichrists Magog means antichristians/antichristianity? In your opinion, what do you believe John means when he writes the two witnesses have been killed?
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    It's not Amils that say the entire planet and heavens shall go up in the flames of God's wrath. That includes every human being still living on the earth at that time. Are you certain the prophetic words of Ezekiel are referring to what shall pertain to the new earth? When you take the time...
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    All who are left alive on this earth after a thousand symbolic years and Satan's little season, will have already been set free from the fear of death when they believed the Gospel of the Kingdom of God and were saved forever, or they already belong to Satan, still held in bondage to fear of...
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    The binding of Satan by Christ's cross and resurrection was not about proclaiming the Gospel of the Kingdom of God unto all the nations of the world. It could not be proclaimed before the Gospel (Christ) literally came. The Gospel of the Kingdom of God to the nations was sent out with power...
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    It's only because this time symbolized a thousand years has ended Marty that saints can no longer reign with Christ is THIS TIME. How can they reign with Him in this symbolic time since it is no more? That doesn't mean we are not still reigning with Him during Satan's little season. Satan's...
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    As long as the Gospel of the Kingdom of God is still being proclaimed in the earth and those who were before hearing the Gospel are saved by grace through faith and enter into the spiritual Kingdom of God, being born again of Christ's Spirit, the strong man's (Satan) house is being plundered...
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    Once proclaiming of the Gospel of the Kingdom of God has completed the task of bringing the last Gentile into the spiritual Kingdom of God there won't be any more need for sending out the Gospel. And the spiritual Kingdom of God will be complete when the thousand years have finished and Satan...
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    I agree David, and glad we find agreement in some things related to eschatology. But I think what you don't understand (could be wrong) is how we in physical body reign with Christ spiritually. Because we have had part in the resurrection life of Christ, who is the first resurrection from the...
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    Where in that passage can we find the hardening in part shall be lifted from ethnic Israel once the last of the Gentiles have come in? Paul tells us that all Israel is saved through the Gentiles being grafted in with them, but he does not say the partial hardening of Israel in unbelief shall...
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    I find none. There will be no further need to the Gospel since the spiritual Kingdom of God shall be complete. The only people alive on the earth during Satan's little season shall be Christians, I believe few in number, and Gog & Magog under the power and authority of Satan, deceived and...
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    How can that be since the Revelation of Jesus Christ was to be sent specifically to seven Churches, not to Israel of Old.
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    I guess I'm just not explaining myself very well Marty. Saints won't be able to reign with Christ AFTER this symbolic time is over, but we still reign with Him during Satan's little season as long as we are alive on the earth. Satan's binding and our reigning with Christ a thousand years end...
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    Okay Marty, but why do you believe this symbolic period of time ends at one time for those reigning, and another time for Satan? Since it's ONE time, how can the same one time end twice? I'm sorry, but that simply does not make any sense to me.
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    Marty the thousand years when we reign with Christ and the thousand years when Satan is bound both begin and end at the same time. That's when the seventh trumpet begins to sound. That one and only period of TIME symbolized a thousand years end, and Satan's little season begins. But as you've...
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    Okay Marty, I think the light bulb has finally turned on LOL. In reality once the faithful saints still alive after the thousand years of Satan's binding has ended, are reigning with Christ during Satan's little season after the thousand years have ended. It appears, to me anyway, that you...
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    So you're not talking about when the binding and reigning with Christ begins, but when it ends. And since the saints alive during Satan's little season are still reigning with Christ during this time AFTER Satan's binding has ended, you believe that the reigning and binding that ends at...
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    Yes, this is what I believe. As we live as faithful saints on this earth since the advent of Christ, Satan is also bound during this time as we are alive and reigning.
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    I don't believe our reigning with Christ ends while we continue to live as faithful saints on this earth. But Satan is set free after the thousand years expire. The thousand years during which we live and reign with Christ before we physically die.