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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    The era/age/time/day, symbolized a thousand years is what the prophetic words of Daniel pertain to. I've already told you this before, and you ignore anything said that does not fit the doctrine you desperately try to prove. The prophecy begins with Michael standing up for his people. This...
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    Judgment came with Christ when He came with the spiritual Kingdom of God, during this age/time/era/day symbolized a thousand years. Man is judged by His Word and Spirit. He that is judged to be in unbelief until they die, shall be judged again at the GWTJ, and cast into the LOF that is the...
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    Is there a reason to believe that saints won't still be reigning with Christ when Satan is set free? While I do believe that during the time for Satan's little season none shall be saved. I don't believe the faith of all who are alive during this age shall be lost, or no longer reign with...
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    The Son of man has already been revealed when He came to earth a man, gave His life a ramson for sin, and defeated death. It is not that the Old Covenant nation did not know Him, rather in unbelief they rejected Him. Even those His coming was according to what was written in the prophets...
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    You don't think they are physically DEAD? If not physical why does John write they were beheaded? Your reference above is speaking about the physically dead having died in unbelief. His father will be buried by most likely members of their own household that are also spiritually dead...
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    You have no ability to answer to what Amillennialism doctrine believes. That's where I differ from you, because I argue against Premillennialism after having been taught and believing your doctrine to be true. You argue against what you really lack understanding of!
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    You have little understanding of Amillennial doctrine you try so hard to discredit! It is by using ALL of Scripture, and not only one chapter found in the most symbolically written book of the Bible, that Amillennial is built upon. Trying to use what is written through vague type and shadow...
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    David, since a thousand years symbolizes TIME, it could be as little as one second, minute, hour, day, month, year, or multitudes of time UNKNOWN! When someone lives and dies during this symbolic time, they have lived and died during TIME symbolized a thousand years. The only thing known about...
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    NONE can be resurrected to physical life again until an hour coming when the last trumpet sounds. That comes after the thousand years expire. But then we have Satan's little season. Do you think the dead are resurrected to life just to be physically consumed by the fire of God that comes down...
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    David, there are only two ways to understand prophecy of Old. That is through understanding the prophecy specifically given to Israel of Old that has already been fulfilled, or the prophecy points to all that comes to pass after the promised Messiah/Redeemer would come. But it requires...
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    Who are you arguing will come back to life AGAIN? Do you NOT believe those who have LIVED and REIGNED with Christ during their lifetimes, symbolized a thousand years, BEFORE they died, MUST have come to life AGAIN and that's why John sees them alive after physical death? If that's your...
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    How can that be true? The martyred saints alive have already LIVED and REIGNED with Christ during this time, symbolized a thousand years. So how can a thousand years take place before the thousand years starts since these martyred souls have lived and reigned during this period? Why must those...
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    This is why I asked you if you believed we reign with Christ in life Marty? You answered yes, and I agreed. We reign in life with Christ during the same time that Satan has been bound. There is not a a thousand years for Satan's binding, and another thousand years when believers before...
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    The dead are allowed to live again, that they may die again in the LOF that is the second death. This is the only reason the dead shall be raised to life again in an hour coming when the last trumpet sounds.
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    No, what it means is that the DEAD remain the rest of the DEAD because they did not in TIME (a thousand symbolic years) live and reign with Christ before they died. Since they have physically died it is too late for them to ever live and reign with Him, so they shall not live again until after...
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    GB, when John writes that he saw martyred souls alive in heaven, that does not mean they are the only souls who have died and are a spiritual body of believers there. He specifically mentions those martyred for their faith, that we might know what kind of battle we face as we go into all the...
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    I wasn't aware that was your point Marty. Sorry if I misunderstood the point you are making.
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    What's the difference? Because none shall physically live again until they are bodily resurrected to life or damnation in an hour coming when the last trumpet begins to sound. Satan's little season begins when the seventh trumpet begins to sound this time symbolized a thousand years shall be...
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    1. Satan's little season does NOT begin until this age of TIME, symbolized a thousand years has ended. 2. Day(s) follow the sounding of the seventh trumpet, why? Because Satan's little season begins then. 3. At the end of Satan's little season, still in the day(s) that follow the sounding...
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    Paul claimed 3 times that Rev 20:4 was a current reality.

    As long as Christians are physically alive in this world, I would think they are reigning spiritually with Christ. The problem may be how one views this reigning. It is NOT over the world in unbelief, we spiritually reign with Christ over the spiritual Kingdom of God. Until one comes out of...