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Why are you telling me this? Obviously Jesus is the Messiah. Except that is rubbish, of course there is. Jesus made no covenant for seven years and broke it. Jesus will not come except that man of sin be revealed first. The first coming. The years pointed exactly to the life of Jesus. No...

So what is the summary of your position?

Now you want to grasp at straws of how words are used more than once for different things in the bible? You cab rule out the covenant God made with Abraham and others and this verse as well as being the covenant in the end that lasts seven years and is broken in the midst. His covenant is never...

Nothing bothered me, I guess I'm fortunate.

I agree. However there may be more in the details than we think. For example will all people on earth at that time be truly ungodly and wicked? Will there be people or children that maybe were confused and victims of their governments? Personally I suspect there will be many people allowed in to...

No, nothing like that. There is no possibility of inserting 70 AD into that. There was no AntiChrist then, no seven year covenant, no tribulation etc etc. Jesus does all this. Not all at once. He reconciled man to God. That was done when He was here and died for us. He did not bring in...

Messiah was not the prince of the covenant. Daniel 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the...

Romans did come and destroy. They were not God's people. They were the people of that evil prince that is still to come one day. That fourth beast is the same beast that the final ten toes come from.

Jesus Himself will destroy the wicked. That is news? The people of Jesus are along for the ride. They later help Him rule. At no time did the people of Jesus destroy the temple, that is petulant insanity.

Your opinion is noted. Christians think it is a wonderful time that is coming. Is Jerusalem on Mars? The mount of Olives on Pluto? The nations on Jupiter? Since He rules earth, what would you call it? When they die, even at 1000 years old that is human. Insane babble. To man a day is a...

I disagree. Revelation 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark...

That is after the 1000 years. That is when Jesus returns with us. Different age. He returns right after the tribulation. I guess we would call that an age also. That is at the end of the day of the Lord, after the millennium. It is clear the new heavne are after the thousand years. Using...

OK.

Once again, random blather. Remember, posters, if you are Jehovah Witnesses please identify yourselves here.

Strange imagination you have there. I guess you feel no pressure at all to be clear or articulate.

Also, it would be good if anyone that is a JW identify themselves honestly as such rather than 'christian' here.

No. The understanding rests on principles. Solid bible fundamentals. We know that the tribulation is the wrath of God, and we do not go through the wrath. We know we return with Him. We know when He comes He will take us to be with Him, not come down to us. etc.

Same thing, they are one. So when Jesus returns all kingdoms become His, and of course the Father's also. There is no separate time for the rule to start! No He won't. There will still be rebels 1000 years later. Once all is finished, after the millennium then we have the new heavens and...

He will rule for 1000 years. He will start to rule after He returns. Yep.

What does that mean? When Jesus returns He does rule forever, starting with that millennium period. He does not rule the kingdoms of this world now. They are not yet become His kingdoms. Revelation 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms...