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  1. dad

    Ark of the Covenant in Heaven?

    That does not say God cannot do anything. In this case it is prophesy about how the earth and heavens will be affected in the end.
  2. dad

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    False. No connection. That is delusional. That does not say He rules earth and has nothing whatsoever to do with when He return with His saints to rule this earth with a rod of iron.
  3. dad

    Ark of the Covenant in Heaven?

    God can shake anything He likes.
  4. dad

    Ark of the Covenant in Heaven?

    So we can add no actual voices, no actual lightening, no actual shaking, to your no actual temple or ark I guess for the grand slam in foolishness.
  5. dad

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    That truly is foolishness.
  6. dad

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Being forgiven does not make on ruler of the planet at the moment. In fact most of the rulers are against God more and more. Any confusion is on you.
  7. dad

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    The nations will be ruled not the 'churches'. Believers will be ruling with Him
  8. dad

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Just to be clear are you suggesting that if the time from when Jesus returns to rule till the end of the millennium is a thousand years and 2 months, that means the bible is wrong?
  9. dad

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Submitting to Christ has nothing at all to do with being delusional and thinking Jesus and us are reigning the earth now with a rod of iron. That is foolishness and it is a shame to the family of God for people to say such things.
  10. dad

    Ark of the Covenant in Heaven?

    If the second part of that verse is exclusively about the future after Jesus returns to earth, then obviously the second part of that verse applies very well also to earth.
  11. dad

    Ark of the Covenant in Heaven?

    The relationship is unknown, the location is known, and I have no idea why rumbling in a temple in heaven is thought of as some sort of a disaster to you. If there is also an application to earth, well then of course for the folks on earth that is disaster. We do not know if the second part of...
  12. dad

    Ark of the Covenant in Heaven?

    Since I said we do not know about the lightning and voices etc in the second part of Rev 11:19 there is no mistake on my end. The mistake lies in you claiming that there is not really a temple in heaven that really contains the real ark. Period. Not sure why you pretend.
  13. dad

    Ark of the Covenant in Heaven?

    No Revelation 11:19 And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail. That is not the second coming. That is a scene away from earth in heaven. The...
  14. dad

    Ark of the Covenant in Heaven?

    God must have cared or why else would He have it there in a temple no less? Whose opinion matters when we know where God is at?
  15. dad

    Ark of the Covenant in Heaven?

    If Jesus did not step in they would have done so! But if you knew about this verse, you would realize what was being talked about by destroying. Again, this is obfuscation and avoiding the issue.
  16. dad

    Ark of the Covenant in Heaven?

    Hebrews 12:26 Whose voice then shook the earth: but now he hath promised, saying, Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven. God also can have a place shake without having the whole country or area shake. For example the jail shook when the apostles were busted out. Likewise...
  17. dad

    Ark of the Covenant in Heaven?

    It did not say there was some heaven wide earthquake. The scene was a certain temple in heaven. Maybe you think there cannot be silence in heaven either?
  18. dad

    Ark of the Covenant in Heaven?

    There is no use obfuscating. The topic is the ark and where it is. You have waved away the verse that tells us. You disbelieve there is a temple in heaven with the ark as we are told in the verse. Fine. I think you stated you think the ark is hidden somewhere on earth. We can disagree.
  19. dad

    Ark of the Covenant in Heaven?

    I happen to know you are no expert on heaven and what is possible or not there. I already covered that in a previous post. The first part of that verse is in heaven. The rest of the verse after the colon might be a bit of both, but we do not know. No, the setting was heaven. New Jerusalem is...