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  1. dad

    Ark of the Covenant in Heaven?

    The lessons for very ancient times, yes. How about up to date lessons? For example if God took the ark to heaven the same time He cliced that veil from top to bottom, is there not a lesson in the power of God in that? Is the removal of what symbolized His presence behind that veil not a great...
  2. dad

    Ark of the Covenant in Heaven?

    Can we rule it out? Why? Since she bore Jesus, I don't think 'will she be' fits. When things are pictured there is a reason. Nor is having some symbols an excuse to wave away the rest of the bible or book. An angel is an angel for example. A city with walls is a city with wall, etc. If Israel...
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    Ark of the Covenant in Heaven?

    The lesson of an ark that is 'lost' is not that anything is with us! If the ark is in heaven then there are lots of lessons, such as that God is real and took it there. You have an opinion. The prophesies of what will unfold are clear as a bell though. The trick is believing them. I can...
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    Ark of the Covenant in Heaven?

    The ark is a treasure of heaven, not the USA, so it will not be anywhere in the piles of dusty rubbish there.
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    Ark of the Covenant in Heaven?

    Me too. What a great memorial and reminder to future generations and all the universe. That makes me think that there will not just be amazing mansions in heaven, but also probably some really great museums, memorials and places of remembrance.
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    Ark of the Covenant in Heaven?

    I think the ten commandments are a great memorial for a museum or temple in heaven. Folks in heaven having been made perfect will probably not really need those tablet rules in the way ancient Israel did. The law is in our hearts. But in any case, when we are told the ark of His covenant is in a...
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    Ark of the Covenant in Heaven?

    Believing what is said is red hot, not stone cold. What would be cold is ignoring that the ark was never lost and will never be found on earth, and the great significance that occurred when that ark was taken by God to heaven. Also the significance that none of Israel's rulers (the same ones...
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    Ark of the Covenant in Heaven?

    Yet I did not see the verse saying that the ten commandments were laws of heaven? In fact only the ark was mentioned as being there. If you recall the law brought death because no one could keep it. Once we have Jesus we do not need any law. His law is love. That is the law of heaven!
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    Ark of the Covenant in Heaven?

    I don't see how something that represented the presence of God and was probably taken up to heaven by God at the same time Jesus died, and He ripped the veil does not matter? If it was not important why does God tell us it is now in heaven? Since it is in heaven it apparently is still...
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    Ark of the Covenant in Heaven?

    God does not worship a veil either yet He ripped that veil in the temple when Jesus died. He does not worship the ark either, but it seems likely that He took it to heaven at the same time. God doing things does not mean we worship things. No. Unless you mean at the time of John which obviously...
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    Ark of the Covenant in Heaven?

    Why wouldn't it be? There were many artifacts, were there not that found their way back to the new temple? If so, why not the holy ark also? If the ark in heaven is the ark of the covenant, then when do you imagine God would have taken it up there? Why would it make any sense to take it to...
  12. dad

    Ark of the Covenant in Heaven?

    Maybe they do have one waiting to be used in the next temple. It will only be a replica though. (whether they know it or not)
  13. dad

    Ark of the Covenant in Heaven?

    Says who? Have you any evidence it was not in Herod's temple? Interesting that some of the contents of the ark were apparently taken to heaven before the ark itself and the tablets of stone. Great, so now that the ark is in heaven there is no need for it to represent His presence for the...
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    Ark of the Covenant in Heaven?

    And so did the ark apparently!
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    Ark of the Covenant in Heaven?

    Great! That gives more glory to God than having it vanish for no reason. It also sheds light on what happened at the crucifixion when that curtain of the holy of holies was torn BY GOD!
  16. dad

    Ark of the Covenant in Heaven?

    All the old testament was a picture. Nevertheless the topic here is what happened to the ark. Not whether the ark had spiritual significance etc. Ah, there is your problem. That didn't take long. I see zero reason there was not real thundering at that great moment Revelation speaks of. We...
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    Ark of the Covenant in Heaven?

    No. If you find one there it is a fake I would think. Even that ark from Ethiopia was just a replica, so if it ended up in the third temple, I will not be fooled.
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    Ark of the Covenant in Heaven?

    The ark of Noah was a real boat. There are many lessons we can draw from that. However it was real, and so was the ark of the covenant. Being able to see deeper truths in those things does not in any way take away from the reality. The ark is said to be missing. That is a real object that is...
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    Ark of the Covenant in Heaven?

    The ark of the covenant was not a replica! It was made here and contained real things in it. So yes, the commandments originated in heaven, but the tablets of stone were made right here. The ark was, I would think, unique. If there was any replica here of the ark and contents it would not be the...
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    Ark of the Covenant in Heaven?

    Except that the staff of Aaron was real. The tablets of stone were made here. So if there was an ark in heaven that contained the manna that fell, and the tablets and the staff of Aaron, then there seem to be only two alternatives. One is that they are mere replicas and not the actual real...