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pom, my point is that there was a literal, physical obedience to law (diets, circumcision, etc.) that existed under the Old Covenant. It was clearly sin not to circumcise a male under the OC regulations. We are not under that covenant so we see those regulations pointed to something more...

4Pillars, I am confused. It seems you are saying that YHWH was created as a physical entity in Genesis 1 when (the Father?) spoke the Word, saying "Let their be light." So, are you suggesting that Jesus/YHWH was created as physical light in that spoken word or Jesus created the physical...

I am not sure what your point is with that text. I agree that Jesus and the Father are distinct persons and that Jesus preexisted in glory with the Father as the Word prior to the existence of the world. That still doesn't teach that the Father and YHWH are not the same. If God is Triune...

I don't buy the assumption that the Father is different from YHWH. There is no text that teaches that.

Biblio, I understand your point, but my point is, your interpretation is based entirely on your own reflections on eras, churches, etc...not on the text itself. The Bible says nothing about these churches reflecting eras in history. So, you have to assume that..and then you have to create...

I think society is "dealing with" these crimes in a fairly reasonable way (at least in America) where such criminals are locked up based on the severity of their crimes and are put in a sexual predator database where they are regularly monitored and have various limitations as registered sex...

The problem I see with these interpretations is that they are really based more on the reader than the author. Creating connections to connect modern-day movements with John's revelation leads us to all kinds of speculation and conjecture with no possibility of being able to confirm anything...

4Pillars, What exactly are you arguing? It sounds like you are claiming that Jesus is YHWH, the Father is not YHWH, but both Father and Son are distinct persons that belong to the "Godhead." Is that correct?

williemac, His "understanding" could be based on his interpretation of the Scriptures. Disbelieving someone else's claim should not be a basis for deciding if how someone understands a Biblical teaching. Of course, we all have opinions, but hopefully those opinions are based on a thorough...

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Doug, I understand where you are coming from. I think I would just disagree that the pulpit is primarily a platform to speak to unbelievers or speak generically to believers and unbelievers. Personally, I think preaching should be exegetical. I dont know how someone can preach exegetically...

I don't disagree with that. I just don't believe in a 3.5 year period of wrath. I think his wrath comes when the Lord appears and people call for the rocks to cover them and hide them from the "wrath of the Lamb." When Christ returns, he rescues his own and judgment falls once and for all on...

I believe the "day of the Lord' indicates a day of his coming presence and judgment. I would encourage you to search the OT for this phrase to get an indication of what the "day of the Lord" was like and consider how these might foreshadow the parousia of Christ.

You are assuming "great tribulation" is wrath. I do not share that assumption. John says he is a partner in the "tribulation." Jesus said, "In this world you will have trouble, but take heart, I have overcome the world." Paul said we are like "sheep for the slaughter" but the nothing can...

That is an assumption that I am unwilling to make. There is nothing in the NT that indicates the authors had such rigid catergories. And again, I think you are ignoring the context. Look at the passage in its context: Jesus is speaking of "great tribulation" and then he says right after...

I appreciate your views Axehead. What Scripture do you see defining apostles as church planters? As I pointed out above, it seems to me that apostles were defined as those specifically sent by Jesus for a specific task. Thus, they were eyewitnesses who had a direct commission from Jesus to...

I take it you are referring to: According to Jesus, the signs in the heavens occur after the "tribulation of those days" at his coming...not prior to a tribulation. Thus, there will be tribulation (and has been for 2,000 years (See Matt. 24:11-14 and all the things Jesus said would happen to...

1 Thess. 5:4 does not say we can know the "day and hour." It says we aren't in darkness so that the day does not surprise us. This doesn't have anything to do with times and dates. It has to do with living a righteous life so that when he does return when he is not expected, you are not...

I'm not ignoring what you are writing, I just don't believe it. Jesus said we wouldn't know the day or hour. You are saying it was a figure of speech that really meant the opposite of what he really said. That is not how figures of speech work and there is nothing to indicate that it was a...

I don't know what you are disagreeing with. I never said the second death was not the lake of fire. I'm confused. Ok, so Jesus is using a figure of speech that "no one knows the day or hour" which really means, "you should know the day and hour." Am I being punked?