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I understand you do not see this as a violation of your conscience. But what if it violates the conscience of another? This is not an issue of discrimination as I see it. Again, the baker was willing to bake for the gay couple. He didn't refuse them because they were gay. He was choosing...

River, you clearly aren't following the discussion. No one is saying that.

Yes, I saw that. Its a great book for learning the basics of Greek grammar. May be challenging to work through individually with no Greek background, but probably the best option out there if someone does not want to take formal classes.

I don't know how the analogy fails. Should a recording artist be forced to record a record for a Satanic band? Where do we draw the lines? If the baker thinks baking a gay wedding cake is "grotesque or obscene" then who are you or I to tell them its not? Maybe the person who wants pictures...

I have to say that this is one of the worst articles I have read in quite sometime. So, by this rationale, I should never punish or correct my children because I "love them" and I should certainly never notice if they misbehave! Has this person ever read the Bible? Have they not read how just...

Stan, you make me chuckle. If everyone just recognized that Stan has all the facts, then it would save everyone a lot of headache. Or as one person said, "I'm not arguing, I'm simply explaining why I'm right." If only we could all be so enlightened!

Again, I think you are missing my point. You took a photo for an ad that was used in an inappropriate magazine. That is different than you taking the inappropriate photos. So let me ask you, would you take photos of naked people for Playboy magazine? If not, why not? You aren't posing...

The best way to get a grasp of Greek is to learn the grammar first, then begin building vocab on top of it. Without a knowledge of the endings, tense formatives, etc, it will become almost impossible to memorize the vocabulary of the NT. I suggest getting Mounce's Basics in Biblical Greek and...

Lol Phoneman777. I hear you. Perhaps he wanted to help us practice love in these areas since he knew we wouldn't agree on them! :)

Messenger, Only in a secular culture would one distinquish their Christian lives inside the church from their conduct outside the church. The baker was not "judging" the gay couple. He was refusing to bake a "wedding cake" for a gay wedding. It would be no different from a Christian...

pom2014, Again, you are using straw man arguments. No one is saying not to feed or clothe a gay person. We are questioning whether or not a baker has to make a "wedding cake" specifically for a gay wedding. As I pointed out, the baker said he would make the couple anything they wanted except...

I mean the popular dispensational view of the rapture today where all the believers are quietly wisked away in a blink of an eye, leaving all the unbelievers to wonder where everyone went. The idea that secretly and suddently all the Christians vanish without the unbelievers seeing or hearing...

justaname, Thanks for your reply. No. I am not saying that they were being welcomed by national Israel . I am saying that they were being welcomed by God. The fullness of God's salvation toward the Gentiles was now being realized in Paul's day. This is the "mystery" of God's plan now being...

ATP, I agree that Jesus will return and we will all be changed. Again, can you show me anyplace that shows this even to be a secret? Well, I think it is a mistake to view the book of Revelation chronologically. All these texts explicitly teach the judgment of the wicked first....and then...

With all due respect, I don't feel any shame for accepting the Bible as God's Word and its teaching on this area as a reflection of God's heart. If the teaching of the Bible on this issue really is God's view, then to accept, normalize and legitimize behaviors that lead people into darkness and...

Well considering I believe the Bible to be "God-breathed," and that Jesus is the incarnate God, I disagree with you that Jesus did not speak about homosexuality. Jesus did not condemn people for being wealthy. He rebuked people for the "love of money." A person can have a lot of money and not...

I'm saying the Bible doesn't speak of a secret rapture that takes only the believers and leaves the unbelievers untouched on the earth for a period of time. I believe the righteous will be "caught up" to meet the Lord in the air and, in that same moment, the wicked will also be gathered and...

I think your problem is with the Bible, not Christians. No one should have to facilitate something that is explicitly condemned in the Bible, whether in a church building or their place of business. That is what "freedom" is supposed to mean.

pom2014, Your argument is ridiculous. Hey, while you're baking cakes for gay weddings, why don't you open a gun shop to sell weapons to those looking to commit crimes? After all, Jesus loved criminals too. How dare those Pharisaical legalists prohibit selling guns to criminals! Just who do...

Perhaps, but perhaps the little mom & pop bakeries cannot afford to hire additional help, specifically non-Christian help for the purpose of such random events. Then they would be sued for specifically seeking a "non-Christian" to work for them and omitting Christians from applying. Its a...