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    Does God expect us to obey the hundreds of NT commands on day one of our service to be saved?

    Ephesians 2:8-9, Romans 3:24, Romans 4:5-6 are all dealing with our Initial Salvation by God's grace. Being Initially Saved by God's grace is a process of salvation without works. It's received like a gift (Ephesians 2:8). Gifts are received one time. This would be in our Initial Salvation...
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    Does God expect us to obey the hundreds of NT commands on day one of our service to be saved?

    The letter that kills is the Torah and not the commands that come from Jesus and His followers. The followers of Jesus would not write down any letter that kills from Jesus and or by their own writings if such were the case. Paul said if any man does not agree with the words of Jesus Christ...
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    Does God expect us to obey the hundreds of NT commands on day one of our service to be saved?

    One Christian guy admitted with me at my old work place that he could mow down a crowd of people with a sub machine gun and he would be saved by a belief alone in Jesus as his Savior (as he did so). I have heard similar things by other Christians online. In fact, there is one church called...
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    Does God expect us to obey the hundreds of NT commands on day one of our service to be saved?

    Actually, that’s not true. I have been at these kinds of discussion for 11 years approximately and I listen carefully to what many people say in the Perpetual Belief Alone Salvationism camp. I have talked with people in person and online. I have done extensive research into their stated...
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    Does God expect us to obey the hundreds of NT commands on day one of our service to be saved?

    Yes, God gives a new heart with new desires, and God does empower us. No doubt about it. But that does not mean we cannot fall. Fall Away List of Verses: If we are never in jeopardy when we sin, then the Bible would not teach that we can fall away from the faith; But it does teach that we...
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    Does God expect us to obey the hundreds of NT commands on day one of our service to be saved?

    Yes, it does because it shows that there is a change of the Law (Hebrews 7:12). I make this point even further in my previous post involving the motivation behind WHY Paul spoke negatively of the Law or works (When he used those words generically). Paul never spoke against the Laws of Christ...
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    Does God expect us to obey the hundreds of NT commands on day one of our service to be saved?

    You fail to understand the underlying motivation of why Paul was speaking negatively of the Law and works in many of his letters when he spoke of these things. Paul was fighting against a heresy of which I call: "Circumcision Salvationism" (Which is Law Alone Salvationism without God's...
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    Does God expect us to obey the hundreds of NT commands on day one of our service to be saved?

    @Daydreamer Jesus was making changes to the Law (even before the New Covenant went officially into effect with His death). For Jesus was primarily teaching New Covenant teachings and not Old Covenant teachings during His earthly ministry. How so? Jesus clearly was making changes to the Law...
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    Does God expect us to obey the hundreds of NT commands on day one of our service to be saved?

    Just as Moses was God’s mediator to God’s people… Jesus (Who is second person of the Godhead or Trinity) was God the Father’s mediator to God’s people. So Moses gave teachings for God’s people (from God the Father). And Jesus gave teachings for God’s people (from God the Father). Hebrews...
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    Does God expect us to obey the hundreds of NT commands on day one of our service to be saved?

    Peter says this about Paul's writings, "As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction." (2 Peter 3:16). In Romans...
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    Does God expect us to obey the hundreds of NT commands on day one of our service to be saved?

    Thank you for your patience on my reply back. I will answer your question here in just a moment. I first wanted to say… The first shall be last and the last shall be first (Matthew 20:16). The order of the Bodily Resurrections: Those who are Raptured (or Caught Up) either before the...
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    Does God expect us to obey the hundreds of NT commands on day one of our service to be saved?

    Many believers today misinterpret 2 Corinthians 3:3, and 2 Corinthians 3:6. 1 Corinthians 3:6 says, “Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.” (2 Corinthians 3:6). Now, this verse is...
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    The Cross of Jesus is no man's gift

    Well, the problem goes beyond OSAS actually. OSAS is a problem because it justifies sin under God's grace (Although some try to deny this). There are those who deny OSAS, and yet they also believe you can sin and still be saved. These are called Free Will Baptists. They believe the only way you...
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    Does God expect us to obey the hundreds of NT commands on day one of our service to be saved?

    This sounds like you have chosen to believe in fiction over what the Bible says on the blood in regards to salvation. In other words, do you just ignore 1 John 1:7? Do you seek to change it because you don't like what it says?
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    Does God expect us to obey the hundreds of NT commands on day one of our service to be saved?

    It's not I that teaches this, but the Bible itself. Demonstration: In Luke 15, we learn in the parable of the prodigal son that when the prodigal son came home and sought forgiveness with his father from living it up with prostitutes, his father said he was “dead” and he is “alive AGAIN.”...
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    Does God expect us to obey the hundreds of NT commands on day one of our service to be saved?

    Also, it needs to be worth noting that Romans 7:14-24 is Paul speaking from his past experience of when he was a Pharisee while he was under the 613 Laws of Moses. So when we read the word “flesh” in Romans 8, this is in reference to not only justifying sin, but it would be in reference to...
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    When Jesus said, “there is none good but one, that is, God.” did He mean nobody could be good?

    @BARNEY BRIGHT I am not interested in your denial of how God reveals Himself in Scripture; And therefore, I am not interested in derailing my own thread and or having this debate with you endlessly. I am confident in what I believe the Scriptures say on that matter. But again, that is not...
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    Does God expect us to obey the hundreds of NT commands on day one of our service to be saved?

    Yes, you need to believe in the blood for salvation (Romans 3:25), but you also have to believe 1 John 1:7, too. 1 John 1:7 says if you walk in the light as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another and the blood of Jesus Christ cleanses us from all sin. What is walking in the...
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    Does God expect us to obey the hundreds of NT commands on day one of our service to be saved?

    This would be the 613 laws of Moses as a whole or package deal. New Covenant believers are not under the whole of the 613 laws of Moses. It does not mean we are not under moral laws as a part of eternal life (After we are saved by God's grace). Just because the moral laws (like do not steal, do...
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    The Cross of Jesus is no man's gift

    Read Acts 15:1, Acts 15:5, Acts 15:24. Then read Galatians 5:2. Then I would encourage you to read Romans 1-4 and get a feel for these chapters in what Paul is saying overall. Don't try to read these chapters with your current belief system. Just read it for what it says. Derive meaning out...