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The Bible doesn't say that. The Bible doesn't say that Jesus was cut off during the one 'seven'. The Bible only says Jesus was cut off after the sixty-two 'sevens'. The Bible also says that after the sixty-two 'sevens' that the city and the sanctuary will be destroyed. The Bible says that...

Absolutely? Isaiah 61:2 has a gap of two thousand years in the middle of one sentence. Has war ceased? If yes, then the end of the one 'seven' has come. If not, then the one 'seven' has not come.

Any time someone says "clearly" I know what they're saying is their conclusion and it is anything but "clear" in the text. Saying Jesus was the midpoint abomination is a Preterist viewpoint. The Bible never states that Jesus is cut off in the midst of the final week. Dan 9:26 Then after the...

No you silly hen. Don't tell me I believe something that I do not. The First Resurrection is before the Millennium. The Second Resurrection is after the Millennium. The First Resurrection is only for the "Living": the righteous whom God selects. The Second Resurrection summons all, both...

Talk about your brainwashing... Ya know, when a commercial says a product doesn't do something bad, I know it has that affect. 1. Records do not reveal Titus making a covenant with many, and ostensibly that would be with the city as well. 2. Titus, who did destroy the city and the sanctuary...

I do not call the First Resurrection of Rev 20:4-5 the "second" Resurrection. Scripture is not wrong, yet I take Paul at his word in 1Th 4:17 and 1Co 15:51-52 - people who never experience death will be taken up to join those the Dead in Christ whom Jesus resurrects from the grave (i.e...

Your first sentence is just a prepositional clause, and not a whole sentence, but I will opine that the Rapture and Jesus' parousia, or second coming, are separate events. I would just refine that and say that the actual order is Jesus' parousia occurs, and then the gathering of the Elect...

Well for starters, I think you said a mouthful. It certainly has given me plenty to discuss. I agree with your assessment of Rev 14:12 as describing the Elect. However, I look to the Remnant passages in the Bible, specifically the OT prophecy ones, as describing the Jews. This does not...

Babylon the Great is not entirely clear to me. I think it has something to do with Rome and the age-old mother-son worship system which I think is an anathema to God. Again, I go back to the Old Testament, and Zechariah's vision of the mystery of woman who is wickedness in Zec 5:5-10. I also...

I view the United States as the first beast of Daniel 7 to rise from the sea of peoples that is Europe. It has power (wings) from England, had them stripped off with its Revolution, and then wrote the Constitution standing on its own two feet (giving the world its greatest political document -...

I too, looked at the Roman Catholic Church, (RCC), with all its sundry and motley collection of Popes (my apologies to Roman Catholics, but some of your Popes have been downright evil) as an archetype for the anti-Christ. This is because they too changed the Law, eliminating the Second...

Hmm. Interesting. I've heard this type of interpretation before of course. While I agree that the seven letters are to Church types (and they go clockwise around Asia Minor (Turkey) for the churches) and I also think we in the time of the Laodicean church - that is because I also think that...

I think you mean Preterist. Historic Pre-Millennialism is the term for the early Church and it is advanced today by Geo. E. Ladd of the Fuller Theological Seminary. Basic breakdowns of eschatology can be found at this link. Preterism is the eschatological system whereby it's already past. You...

I love a good argument. Start another thread so we can discuss our differing points. I doubt I will convince you, but we may both gain an insight into the other's position in doing so.

In a Pre-Wrath eschatology, which is my position, the Great Multitude is taken up to Heaven on the Day of the Lord, which is coincident with the opening of the sixth Seal. Revelation chapter 19 starts the epilogue parallel account to the broad overview of the Seal/Scroll chronology of chapters...

First of all, "taken" in the Greek is the same word as is used when someone "receives" Christ! Didn't know that? The word is paralambano. From my writing: Another Rapture verb that Matthew uses is paralambano to describe Jesus’ message to the Church’s deliverance. An interesting word, it...

This is a strawman argument. First of all, the "Left Behind" series of books (and a movie or two) is not THE Rapture theory. All Pre-Millennial eschatologies contain a Rapture. Pre-Millennial eschatology contains the following subsets in order of when they sequence the Rapture: Pre-Trib -...

Oh it's not there. Yeah, right, and denial is not just a river in Egypt... The Great Multitude in Heaven is NOT there! - rabbi keras rants! a great multitude in heaven - Rev 19:1 Yeah, we rapture cult people make stuff up to delude others. And no one said they "pre-judged" themselves worthy...

Sadly deceived? LOL! Because Jesus said we're going to be gathered up? Mt 24:31 And He will send forth His angels with A great trumpet and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of the sky to the other. Because when the things Jesus said will come our redemption...

This is an excellent example of someone (and I guess rabbi keras is quoting this James Lloyd fellow) thoroughly demagogue a subject in a pejorative manner. There is no response to the Scriptural reference given in the post prior to the diatribe. There is no Scripture in this post which...