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Well Aspen, I will be honest, I need to get something off my chest.... As far as your post is concerned... I don't hate it at all Thank you very much for sharing. I may not agree with it, but then again I did ask the question to get other people's opinions. Sometimes, I wish we could...

No I am not talking about the temple that they are preparing to build now, I am talking about the Millennium Temple talked about in Ezek. Joshua David

This is one of the reasons that I do not belief that it will be located in New Jerusalem. The city of New Jerusalem is as big as a small continent. Slightly larger than have the size of the entire United States. It would engulf the Middle-east. I see the Ezek temple being built outside of...

Well then if you see two tribulations, then what is the purpose of each of them? Joshua David

I loved this post. Very well thought out. 99% of the time, when someone says, "I have the Holy Spirit to guide me, and if you would just ask Him he will guide you into the truth as well." What he is really saying is, "I am right and you are wrong, and God says I am right, so there nah, nah...

Yes, you are right.. I mean going from one location, or time, to another location or time. Which is a total different picture than keeping you through, which is what the Post tribs think. What did he say he would keep us from? The trial. Where is the trial? On the whole earth. So the...

This subject came up in another topic, and I wanted to explore it a little further, and get other people's opinion on it. What do you see is the purpose of the Tribulation? Just to be fair, let me give my answer. I believe that the tribulation will serve 3 purposes. 1) To refine Unsaved...

I would agree with you on the definition of keep, that a physical removal is not implied in the definition of téreó. But if you look at the definition of "from", you get a total different picture. 1537 ἐκ, ἐκπερισσῶς, ἐκφωνέω [ek, ex /ek/] prep. A primary preposition denoting origin (the...

That was a beautiful dream, thanks for sharing. Joshua David

Sorry, I would have to disagree with you. The Ezek 40 temple will not be located in New Jerusalem. We know this because there will not be a temple in the New Jerusalem. Rev 21:22 But I saw no temple in it, for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are its temple. Joshua David

No what I would be agree to is that the 144,000 are a part of the Tribulation Saints, which I believe will number into the millions, in fact at least greater than the 200 million army. Are the 144,000 considered the 'First fruits' Yes just like Christ is considered the first fruit. No it...

It could be built by man, or Angels, or God himself. My point is not who builds it, but that it will be built. Joshua David

Wow imagine that.. Someone who believes the pretrib doctrine, has a testimony that betrays their belief in a pretrib doctrine. I mean... Wow.. that is mind blowing. So where do those that are raptured out fit among those? They don't. Those that are raptured out are not part of the...

I don't believe that I ever claimed that man would build that temple, all I said, was that the temple described in Ezekiel would be rebuilt. Joshua David

There is nothing to solve. You are assuming that only those in the Rev 20:4 group represent Christ's true body and Church. Although I do not say this very often, Veteran that assumption is flat out wrong. And it is easy enough to prove if you look at the disciples, which was exactly the...

Where does that leave his disciples? Be careful of your answer, because you don't want to make the mistake of making Jesus out to be a liar. He specifically told his disciples that they would rule. The disciples all died before going through the tribulation. The disciples are not part of the...

So let me get this right.. Are you claiming that ONLY those Christians that specifically went through the tribulation, will reign with Christ? What about those Christians who had the great misfortune of dieing before the tribulation started? I guess Jesus doesn't have any use in them...

Hmm... Let's take a real close look at that.. If this verse represents all the saints in the church age, like you claim it does, let's see it that assumption stands up to critical review. What are the properties that these people possess. 1) They were beheaded 2) They did not worship...

I don't support it, because I know that Jesus was our ultimate sacrifice, but I do believe that the temple will be rebuilt, because it's rebuilding has been prophesied. When I see the news talking about how close they are to rebuilding the temple, it gets me excited, not because of what the...

Saying that you have a different interpretation than someone is one thing. Speaking for God and declaring that God is angry because someone is teaching something that they believe to be true is something totally different. After all did you not say.. Now I have always said that this is...