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    Amillennialism vs premillennialism ......how & why ppl believe different.

    How is wanting to speak biblical truth causing a ruckus??? By sharing the doctrine of Amillennialism that I believe is the only position regarding biblical eschatology that does not force contradiction into God's Word, I am already labeled the enemy by those of you who desire to prove my...
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    Amillennialism vs premillennialism ......how & why ppl believe different.

    This is not quite correct. Amil doesn't believe God is done with Israel! Quite the contrary in fact. We believe ALL ISRAEL shall be saved. However ALL ISRAEL includes Gentiles who are grafted into the good olive tree of faith with Israelites of faith, so ALL ISRAEL that shall be saved is NOT...
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    Amillennialism vs premillennialism ......how & why ppl believe different.

    Yes, by all means we should close down anyone who dares to come with doctrine that proves our doctrine is unbiblical! FWIW we have been living in the end of days of this world since Christ came to earth a man with the spiritual Kingdom of God that is within you. A Kingdom btw many of you...
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    They will reign with Him a thousand years and making an unknown Greek out of the English New Testament

    I didn't write anything that John did not! You're finding it difficult to accept that John is saying lived and reigned because it destroys the doctrine of Premillennialists looking for a literal one thousand more years of time on this earth when Christ comes again. Never imagined spirits in...
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    They will reign with Him a thousand years and making an unknown Greek out of the English New Testament

    I find people generally, (speaking for myself as well) like replies they feel are based on Biblical truths. While I find it complementary, all the glory is to God alone! I don't reply to garner likes or dislikes, I reply because I am compelled by the Spirit of Christ within me to show what God...
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    They will reign with Him a thousand years and making an unknown Greek out of the English New Testament

    You're again ignoring the tenses. It does not say as you do "then began to live and reign with Christ". John writes they LIVED and REIGNED a thousand years. PAST TENSE, because they lived and reigned with Christ during this time symbolized a thousand years before they were martyred for their...
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    Isn't this assuming there will still be ONE thousand more years of time given this earth after the coming of Christ?
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    They will reign with Him a thousand years and making an unknown Greek out of the English New Testament

    Not really! Premillennialists more than any others like to ask questions rather than explain the inconsistencies your doctrine has, because you get quite upset when truth gets in the way of your doctrine.
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    They will reign with Him a thousand years and making an unknown Greek out of the English New Testament

    Yes, it is, and it is very time consuming. Which is why I am reluctant to repeating myself within the same thread that is here for any who might be interested to read. I know it's hard to jump into an on-going discussion and repeat some things for the benefit of new people joining in. I try...
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    They will reign with Him a thousand years and making an unknown Greek out of the English New Testament

    They were alive in human body when they LIVED and REIGNED with Christ during this time period symbolized a thousand years. They had to be physically alive to be beheaded. John is given to understand these faithful, living, humans are still alive AFTER physical death, referring to them as...
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    They will reign with Him a thousand years and making an unknown Greek out of the English New Testament

    What is written in Daniel 7 includes recorded history of Israel that is past, as well as future history that shall come to not only Israel of Old, but for the whole earth, wherever the spiritual Kingdom of God is found through the Holy Spirit within man. The book of Revelation, like the...
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    They will reign with Him a thousand years and making an unknown Greek out of the English New Testament

    This thread has several replies from me. I've shown inconsistencies throughout.
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    They will reign with Him a thousand years and making an unknown Greek out of the English New Testament

    The prophecy of Daniel when Michael stood up for his people points to the birth of Christ when he and his angels cast Satan and his angels out of heaven and bound them to the earth. Being bound to the earth means that Satan and his angels no longer have access to heaven as they apparently had...
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    They will reign with Him a thousand years and making an unknown Greek out of the English New Testament

    David, I have a small request for you. Before going off into another question regarding Rev 20, perhaps you wouldn't mind addressing the inconsistencies in your doctrine I've already pointed out. Perhaps that would clear up some of these questions you have???
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    They will reign with Him a thousand years and making an unknown Greek out of the English New Testament

    I believe Michael of Dan 12:1 and Michael of Rev 12 are depicting the same event. It was through the advent of Christ coming to earth a man that Michael stands up for his people through the battle between Michael and his angels and the dragon and his angels, with Satan and his angels being cast...
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    They will reign with Him a thousand years and making an unknown Greek out of the English New Testament

    Do you believe what is written is limited to the Gospel age? Revelation 20:4 (KJV) And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the...
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    They will reign with Him a thousand years and making an unknown Greek out of the English New Testament

    Daniel's prophecy points to the first advent of Christ. Which John writes began with the binding of Satan in time symbolized a thousand years. So, I agree the prophecy in Dan 7 that is repeated in Revelation is a depiction of the Son of man, the exact image of the Ancient of days. I'll let...
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    They will reign with Him a thousand years and making an unknown Greek out of the English New Testament

    They do not live and reign with Christ in time AFTER they are martyred for their faith. They are spiritually alive in heaven as souls after they die. It is because they LIVED and REIGNED during this symbolic time, that they are souls in heaven a spiritual body of believers there. Like I said...
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    They will reign with Him a thousand years and making an unknown Greek out of the English New Testament

    John has already shown us those who died in faith are souls spiritually alive in heaven after they were martyred for their faith. They took part in the first resurrection which is the resurrection of Christ by grace through faith. In vs 6 John writes of others who shall be with them because...