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  1. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ (Romans 8:1)

    If you want to deny people eat with doubt, why would you affirm people eat with faith? LOL If "doubt" and "faith" are not categories that apply to eating, how have you been affirming that this whole time (when referring to the one free to eat meat, and the one not free to eat meat)?
  2. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ (Romans 8:1)

    Oh, really? Why is eating such a special activity that you are seemingly saying God doesn't care about it? Didn't God give laws about eating (not that we're held to them today)? So, why wouldn't God care today? Of course God cares--He cares about everything! God spelled out which foods were...
  3. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ (Romans 8:1)

    Nope, I responded at length, and you waved it all away with a non-related comment that did not at all answer all of those answers I spent my time bringing to you, so engaging at length is no longer warranted (you'll just do the same again).
  4. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ (Romans 8:1)

    They weren't forgiven 2,000 years prior, or else they wouldn't have been born "children of wrath". They are forgiven when they are included in that people to whom the sacrifice applies: Christ being the High Priest who entered the Holy of Holies indicates that the sacrifice applies to the...
  5. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ (Romans 8:1)

    LOL Right, the hypocrite emptily accuses the one he accuses. I'm not pouring my resources into interacting with you until you've gone back and answered all of those answers I gave you.
  6. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ (Romans 8:1)

    Irrelevant. I answered this empty objection already: 1. "Mere" eating plunged the entire history of humanity into damnation. Sorry, precedent is against your empty speculation. 2. To be clear, I'm not saying a single sin and a Christian is damned forever (they can get back on track by faith)...
  7. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ (Romans 8:1)

    I thought you folded a long time ago. Were you wanting to go back and answer all those answers I supplied you with, or were you still bowing out?
  8. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ (Romans 8:1)

    Since I like staying on topic, we can start on topic: how do you resolve the apparent tension between Romans 8:1 and 14:23? My solution is to just take some basic truths into account: 1. There is no condemnation for those "in Christ" Ro 8:1 2. Believers who break the rule of faith are condemned...
  9. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ (Romans 8:1)

    No, not even close: Calvin's Commentary on the Bible Verse 23 23.But he who is undecided, etc. He very fitly expresses in one word the character of that mind which vacillates and is uncertain as to what ought to be done; for he who is undecided undergoes alternate changes, and in the midst of...
  10. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ (Romans 8:1)

    @CadyandZoe You sure did go through a lot of trouble to try to skirt around the issue, downplay, suppress, all to uphold your rejection of the obvious teaching of Romans 14:23 (the one who does not do what he is fully persuaded is correct is sinning and is condemned), because it threatens your...
  11. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ (Romans 8:1)

    You've expressed your views on Scripture, and they do not cohere. (You can look through our previous discussions for details--won't get further into it here.) That you call your "understanding" of the Bible "making sense" says a lot about you.
  12. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ (Romans 8:1)

    1 Corinthians 8 10For if someone sees you, the one who has knowledge, dining in an idol’s temple, will his conscience, if he is weak, not be strengthened to eat things sacrificed to idols? 11For through your knowledge the one who is weak is ruined, the brother or sister for whose sake Christ...
  13. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ (Romans 8:1)

    1. I thought you said a "true believer" would never judge another believer. 2. For you, conveniently, there seems to be only one aspect of this entire text: make sure you don't do something another "true believer" will judge. That's not what it says. It says "let each man be fully convinced in...
  14. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ (Romans 8:1)

    This is the only verse I need to address to prove my point. Are you denying the explanation Paul is giving--the one who eats with doubt is committing a sin, and is condemned, because what ever does not proceed from faith is sin (ie, if the man had walked in full persuasion, he would've been...
  15. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ (Romans 8:1)

    The specific example that is being condemned is being under Law, but the general rule they are breaking is that they are not living by faith (which he later delivers them to--Paul nowhere argues, "Christ alone", he delivers them from the "slavery" of performing the works of the Law TO the...
  16. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ (Romans 8:1)

    It's your option to see it. I stand by my argument. So are you denying the Judaizers are teaching a doctrine of demons, or are you denying the idols the nations worship are demons? If you deny neither, on what basis are you disagreeing? I've already addressed this: God being Savior is not...
  17. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ (Romans 8:1)

    When you're prepared to address the topic, you may.
  18. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ (Romans 8:1)

    It is tempting to think "if I just have faith, I'll overcome sin". Paul says "If by the Spirit you mortify the deeds of the flesh you will live", and "How is boasting done away with? By a Law of works? No, by a Law of faith!"... but the example we have of him overcoming boasting "by the Spirit"...
  19. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ (Romans 8:1)

    Yep, 95% of men in Protestant Churches (tabulated by a men's ministry that visits churches) are addicted to porn--these are the guys saying "rest in the finished works of Christ". It's a shame and a blasphemy of Christ. It's powerless false doctrine. The devil has a field day with them. Then...
  20. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ (Romans 8:1)

    You can make your own thread on that topic; the topic here is that not all remain, bc there no condemnation to those who are in Christ, yet remaining is by keeping His commands, and we read that those who break His commands are condemned (so, clearly, theyre not remaining). If you're interested...