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  1. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    Because he has a view of Scripture that actually makes sense of its parts?
  2. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    So, to hold your theological system together, you simply have to be left with extra parts lying around--parts others make use of. I don't have extra parts. Your version of God doesn't forget righteousness, my God does forget righteousness, blotting people out of His Book of Life.
  3. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    Not sure how "condemned" isn't the same subject. Actually, it was established literally everyone agrees with me because it's what's plainly stated. I can point you to an equation stating 2 + 2 = 4 but if you choose to go outside of logic, and deny it, what can i do? I accept that you reject my...
  4. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    No, actually, I try to square Scripture with Scripture, and people like yourself are of no assistance.
  5. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    Well actually it worked. I couldn't accept the importance of His having saved me (past-tense) before. I always thought my works were what saved me. When I did accept that Christ saved me, they went away. However, I admitted I only accept that doctrine in that manner under that kind of pressure...
  6. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    Romans 2 says doers of the Law will be justified.
  7. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    Yep, that's why Romans 2 needs to be reconciled. The doer of the Law, there, is the Gentile believer on whose heart the Law is written. By being under Grace, they fulfill the righteous requirement of the Law without being under Law. They don't even know the Law (v14,15,26, 27).
  8. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    Once I believed in the truth that Jesus saved me (past-tense), I woke up, and saw that they were in terrible trouble, and all their structures were being destroyed, and they were revealed to me as being vampires. I think their vampirism is based on fear. They steal spiritual energy from others...
  9. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    Glory to God. I try to have a belief that is coherent. I study and ask God for understanding. I try to help others, and others help me, even when they oppose me.
  10. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    Not sure why it would be "sad" when it's Jesus helping me.
  11. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    Yes, Jesus told me He was perfecting me with those indescribably terrifying visitations from satanists. He forced me to believe in what I don't believe in just so I could get rid of them. They visited me, or threatened to, every night for about 7 years.
  12. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    No, actually, Christians walk in God's righteousness, not their own, when they walk in faith. For instance, Paul says "I was abundant in labors above them all, yet, not I, but the grace with me", and "Christ came and preached to you" (when the minister went to preach, it was Christ). Romans 2...
  13. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    OK So, by your logic, there is no objection to reconciling Ro 8:1 and 14:23 by saying people can go back to walking after their "old dead nature self", which I would define as not remaining in Christ, where there is no condemnation, which is also doing things you don't really believe in, but...
  14. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    I struggle with it, as well, but I've seen many theologians put it all out there, plus I've seen others get to share when I don't share, so I figure I might as well share.
  15. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    So, you would say that if someone walks by the rule "each man must be fully convinced in his own mind", he's walking after the flesh, and "will die" (Ro 8:12,13), but he thinks he's correct, and the guy who breaks the rule is in the same boat, but he thinks he did wrong? Why is it the case...
  16. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    The only time I accept that Christ alone saves is when I get spiritual satanic visitations. I forego any reasoning, and just stick with that, and they go away.
  17. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    No, I'm confused about what role Christ's sacrifice plays, because, apparently, what determines my justification on that Day is my obedience after the fact, not Christ's sacrifice.
  18. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    However, when I try to focus on "glorifying God", I'll hear "pardoned", or I'll see the Cross, or Christ on the Cross, and it's puzzling to me. This makes it seem as though that event is not being regarded enough by me. I honestly don't know how to regard it more than I do. I've tried. I don't...
  19. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    LOL My main "pet peeve" is the contingent on the forum that denies Christians ever sin, ever fail to abide in Christ, or could ever lose salvation--but I know they also know God, because of other Scriptural truths which they affirm. God is merciful and kind, and does not wait for us to have...
  20. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    The issue is that, as the same James warns, "God opposes the proud", and, speaking for myself, obviously, there are often mixed intentions--on one hand, I understand it is my responsibility to understand the Gospel, but, on the other hand, I want to congratulate myself on my ability to...