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Interestingly, Romans 14:23 says the one who does not walk in faith is "condemned", and James 2 says that we are "justified" if we, instead, walk in faith. The Bible would make sense if people would just read it and ask God for understanding.

1. OK So you admit that some valid, real, "true believer", Christians can walk not after the spirit, but after the flesh (Ro 8:12,13), correct? 2. How is it that they have nothing to do with one another? The one is a rule that Christians do only the things they are fully convinced in their own...

Romans 14:23 was cited.

The solution I have to how "there is therefore now no condemnation for those in Christ", and, yet, the Christian who sins "is condemned", is simply that not all "remain in Him" (1 Jn 2:28), because remaining in Him is by faith in His Name and by walking in love (1 Jn 3:23.24), which is walking...

Romans 14 5Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind... 23But whoever has doubts is condemned if he eats, because the eating is not from faith. For whatever does not proceed from faith is sin.

Right, I'm saying they depart from Christ in order to sin--as it says "children, remain in Him" (1 Jn 2:28), and "Children, keep yourselves from idols" (1 Jn 5:21). Spiritually immature Christians sometimes leave Christ to go after idols. When someone does something with doubt, it is departing...

The same God that promises He forgets sin also forgets righteousness. Ezekiel 18 24But if a righteous man turns from his righteousness and practices iniquity, committing the same abominations as the wicked, will he live? None of the righteous acts he did will be remembered. Because of the...

You're only raising another issue that needs another thread. We've already discussed your way of trying to reconcile Ro 8:1 and 14:23--your way of preserving 8:1 is to simply deny the obvious truth that the one in view in 14:23 is a "true believer" at all. We also saw that there is no one, not...

They don't. You may be able live with a mental situation like that. I'm not able to live with a mental situation like that--knowing I don’t know what God is saying, so I'm not really believing what God is saying, and, then, knowing I'm also responsible for relaying that message that I don't...

I already know your view. Because I knew your view, what I did was I responded to it. I demonstrated that the context of that statement (hurting others with your things approve of) makes it clear it is not to be read that way. Moving the conversation forward, for you, therefore, would mean...

Look at the title of the thread.

Please do me a favor and show me where I have ever said anything even approaching this.

This refers not to the person who condemns himself, but to bringing condemnation on him by doing what he allows in a way that is destructive to his brother. Romans 14 19So then, let us pursue what leads to peace and to mutual edification. 20Do not destroy the work of God for the sake of food...

I understand. Your concern is with defining the method whereby Christians walk in the spirit, and with how many misunderstand the Bible along those lines. That is not the concern of this thread. The concern is reconciling Ro 8:1 with 14:23, and with establishing that not all remain "in Christ"...

1. Whether Judas hanging himself is awesome or not is subjective--when Babylon is judged, those who dwell in heaven rejoice and praise God. I think maybe you're looking at it from an earthly perspective. 2. God's point of view is expressed in God's Word, which is what the discussion is about...

1. You would not think "in Christ is no condemnation" (Ro 8:1), but "abiding is by obeying" (Jn 15; 1 Jn 3:23,24), and "anything that does not proceed from faith is sin, which leads to condemnation" (Ro 14:23) better explains this--by sinning (not walking in faith), the guy is not abiding in the...

1. All Scripture is awesome IMO It all fits together, no matter how jagged the edges are 2. Rest assured, lots of people understand we don't walk upright by being under Law but by being under grace. The method of "keeping commands" is not the point here, the point is merely we see we abide by...

I think they're trying to boast about Christ's grace, but they don't know how to do it properly.

Anyway, you already basically agreed with the point of the thread on reconciling Ro 8:1 and 14:23 when you agreed that not all remain in Christ--as to the means of remaining (ie, by obeying commands), if you want to deny what is plainly stated in Scripture, any honest reader can read the...

Yup. The Title of the thread is "No Law : Under Grace". My responses were in that context, agreeing we're not under Law but under Grace as the means of righteousness. I said we are to be righteous, but it's not by the Law, but by Grace. It seemed you disagreed with that. Did I misunderstand...