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  1. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    So, you agree the Scriptures teach we remain in Him, and Him in us, by keeping God's commands (1 Jn 3:23,24), but you're saying "walk by the spirit" is something else unrelated?
  2. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    Irrespectively, "the Scripture cannot be broken", so l'll stick with what has been explained from it. Thanks for the engagement.
  3. GracePeace

    No Law : Under Grace

    Sorry, it sounded like you were disagreeing with the idea that knowing God was the means of righteousness, not the Law.
  4. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    1. Please reread the comment you replied to--in it, you will find actual historical/Scriptural examples of people who had been in the faith falling away from the faith (so that it is not an issue of "the first day of being a Christian"), which, again, proves that believing in the Name of God's...
  5. GracePeace

    No Law : Under Grace

    The Law was not made for righteous people (1 Ti 1:9). The Law is the strength of sin (1 Co 15). The Law is good and holy and just (mostly--though Christ faults the Law, overruling it in Mt 5, on vows, for instance, and, again, in Mt 19, on divorce), but men were not made that way, they were...
  6. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    One of His commands is to believe. 1 John 3 23This is His commandment, that we [h]believe in the name of His Son Jesus Christ... You do not think knowing Christ is contingent upon believing? You said you were a "Galatians" man: By failing to believe in the Name of God's Son (inasmuch as they...
  7. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    1 John 3 23This is His commandment, that we [h]believe in the name of His Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, just as He commanded us. 24The one who keeps His commandments remains in Him, and He in him. We know by this that He remains in us, by the Spirit whom He has given us. 1 John 2 3By...
  8. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    I said there is a superficial contradiction between Ro 8:1 and 14:23 (the title of the thread)--resolved by observing that not all remain "in Christ", because that is by obeying His commands to i) believe, and ii) walk in love/faith (Jn 15; 1 Jn 3:23,24).
  9. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    Yup. Nope, with the doctrine that our salvation was typed by the salvation of the Jews, and that Paul says we should not incur God's wrath on ourselves, from which we had been saved, by sinning as they sinned. I'm not speaking about the method of righteousness (Law or Grace), but merely...
  10. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    OK I believe our salvation was typed by that of the Jews from Egypt according to 1 Corinthians 10.
  11. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    In fact, I've recently argued against the idea that believers are under the Law, so why would I ever have said that you are to follow the OT Laws? I wouldn't have--and didn't. https://www.christianityboard.com/threads/no-law-under-grace.57886/page-3#post-1849369
  12. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    Galatians was written by Paul--same author of Corinthians. No one said to follow the OT Laws--if you think I did, show me where I did.
  13. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    Whichever part, assuming he is referring to having spoken with them about Scripture during that previous meeting, it will have had no bearing on the fact that 1 Co 10 teaches our salvation was typed by that of the Jews from Egypt. Whoever wants to be like Paul, as he follows Christ, should...
  14. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    1 Corinthians 10 1For I do not want you to be unaware, brethren, that our fathers were all under the cloud and all passed through the sea; 2and all were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea; 3and all ate the same spiritual food; 4and all drank the same spiritual drink, for they...
  15. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    They were under the cloud = the Holy Spirit (the cloud was the cloud of the Presence Ex 34:5; Nu 12:5). They were baptized into Moses = baptism into Christ They ate and drank spiritual food and drink = the Lord's supper Obviously, what preceded this was the Passover, when they were saved by the...
  16. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    Of course Christians can sin. 1 Corinthians 10 says our salvation was like the salvation of the Jews from Egypt--THEREFORE, let us not sin, as they sinned, and bring God's wrath, which we had been saved from, down on ourselves, thus, fail to inherit the Promised Land ("fight the good fight of...
  17. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    I'm not saying "everyone on this forum abides in Christ", just that there are some who do, but, invariably, there're defects in their understanding of Scripture, so they're unhelpful.
  18. GracePeace

    No Law : Under Grace

    Knowing good and evil isn't how men were created to operate; knowing the glory of God was always the way men were meant to operate. "God Is Our Righteousness" (Jer 23:6) means "apart from the Law". The Law is good if it is used lawfully--to condemn sinners, not for those righteous by knowing...
  19. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ, But... Sinning Believers Are Condemned Ro 14:23?

    There are people on this forum who abide in Christ. They know the God of Scripture, but not the Scripture of the God they know, thus they issue unhelpful explanations of Scripture. I can't live with myself twisting my brain into a pretzel like that.