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  1. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ (Romans 8:1)

    And the thread, I think, proves not all remain, since "no condemnation in Christ" (Ro 8:1), but the believer who sins is "condemned" (Ro 14:23), since remaining in Him is by keeping both His Word (faith), and Works (love = walk in faith) (Jn 15; 1 Jn 3:23,24).
  2. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ (Romans 8:1)

    Your suppression of the obvious truth--which everyone, even those on your side (OSAS), agree on, yet you claim there is a "conspiracy", including by your own OSAS people, to suppress your view--is insulting. "Can't make a good argument"? LOL Your objections have done nothing but honed my...
  3. GracePeace

    Justified by Works

    Acting on the faith is the "gift". Our acts of faith are Christ's acts, not our works which would pertain to our own righteousness--walking in faith is God's righteousness (Ro 1:17). Therefore, on the Day of Judgment, those who are doers of the Law are justified as a gift by walking in...
  4. GracePeace

    Justified by Works

    Yeah, I agree, I just needed more of an answer, because there are so many other truths in Scripture that require answering.
  5. GracePeace

    Justified by Works

    Walking by faith is not "works". "Works" is "a righteousness of my own"; walking in faith is God's righteousness (Ro 1:17; 14:5,23). "I was abundant in labors above them all, yet, not I, but the grace with me." "I have been crucified with Christ. It is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives...
  6. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ (Romans 8:1)

    For anyone who has been confused by the "not saved by works" argument (as I had been): When we walk in faith, that is Christ saving us apart from works of the Law, saving us (1 Co 15:2) with His righteousness, bc when we walk in grace through faith, that is the "gift of righteousness" (that...
  7. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ (Romans 8:1)

    Based on how uninformed and dishonest you are just in Romans, I wouldn't think I'd want to exert my effort wrangling with you through all of Paul's epistles, where you'd have to be corrected on so many more issues, and wouldn't care to accept the correction--except if I thought I wanted the...
  8. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ (Romans 8:1)

    Not relevant. I have a "precommittment" to accepting what ever the Bible states. This isn't about you citing authorities, this is about your baseless, ridiculous, belief that you're only being proven wrong by everyone else because there's a conspiracy to suppress the correct...
  9. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ (Romans 8:1)

    Because of how they are poor and obvious attempts to suppress the reality of what is being discussed. "Each man is to be fully convinced in his own mind"--if the person goes and does something he is not convinced is correct, that is doing something without faith (ie, with uncertainty, with...
  10. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ (Romans 8:1)

    Irrelevant: as stated, and as you know, there're multitudes of books by OSASers, so quit being ridiculous. The issue is merely they have spoken without understanding the ramifications of the obvious interpretation--but the reason you are objecting is because I have understood the ramifications...
  11. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ (Romans 8:1)

    I'm glad, for your sake, that you recognize I was doing well, but it's sad to see that you are in such a state as to have to suppress the truth that I am still doing stellar. Not appealing to authority, just discussing the Greek--unless you are complaining that I have to go to an authority on...
  12. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ (Romans 8:1)

    No, Paul doesn't argue for a "non-contingent salvation"--Romans 8:1 never touches upon whether "in Christ" is "contingent" upon anything, and immediately speaks in a way that undermines that assumption (vv12,13). Well, yes, Romans 14:23, but, also, many other verses--Romans 8:12,13 for example...
  13. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ (Romans 8:1)

    @CadyandZoe How could you allow yourself to be incurious about all the Scriptural "extra parts" left laying around after building your theology? Why does the concept of "remaining in Christ" (Jn 15; 1 Jn 3:23,24), always by keeping His Word and commands, even exist in Scripture if being "in...
  14. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ (Romans 8:1)

    No, "dissent" hasn't been weeded out, they have multitudes of books from authors who agree with you on OSAS/POTS, but those same OSAS/POTS teachers haven't understood the implications of interpreting Romans 14:23 correctly (as they have).
  15. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ (Romans 8:1)

    I'm proving my case, actually, from the passages I've raised. You "don't see" it. That is perfectly fine by me. Your arguments against what is obviously occurring in Ro 14, and, in particular, v23, are ridiculous.
  16. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ (Romans 8:1)

    1. He had described the plight of the Jew under Law (mastered by Sin Ro 6:14), and he says Christ rescues us from that slavery, and being rescued from slavery to Sin, we THEREFORE are not condemned, because we can fulfill the Law, and not be condemned for breaking the Law, but he goes on to warn...
  17. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ (Romans 8:1)

    So, it is more likely, to your mind, that basically everyone else disagrees with you because they do not love God than it is that you're simply wrong? "Odd".
  18. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ (Romans 8:1)

    This is not an answer to the argument.
  19. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ (Romans 8:1)

    As stated, this entire point is irrelevant. Beside the fact that you're assuming inaccurate convictions are always religious beliefs (as if it only refers to Jewish Christians), but a Gentile believer could easily have held to vegetarianism, a religion-based argument can be religiously debunked...
  20. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ (Romans 8:1)

    1. I wasn't asking why you made long posts--everyone should. 2. I didn't follow any pastor or commentary to my conclusion--AFTER I reached my conclusion, during this discussion, I checked what others said about it, and they agreed with me. 3. You're not "verbose", you're just completely...