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Absolutely, but immaturity or even carnality of thought (which is also immaturity) isn't a proof of lack of relationship. Self defense is a natural aspect of the flesh. Under trial for His very life, the Lord would not open His mouth in defense of Himself, but are we all there yet? Some of us...

This thread is getting a bit long for my old brain to easily follow, but here's some food for thought to those who believe that we somehow contribute to our salvation. "Watch and pray, lest you enter into temptation. The spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak.” Matthew 26:41

Step back, count to 10, do whatever you need to do to avoid doing damage to your own testimony or to avoid tempting a brother to sin. Absolutely none of us will have a perfect understanding until we're renewed in the resurrection and all of us who believe serve the same master, even when we're...

I wouldn't be dogmatic about that one. Do not lie in wait, O wicked man, against the dwelling of the righteous; Do not plunder his resting place; 16 For a righteous man may fall seven times And rise again, But the wicked shall fall by calamity. Proverbs 24:15-16 To my perception there's a lot...

Not with that attitude.

Yes, nice quotes, but if you've carefully studied the prophets and the book of the Revelation, its pretty clear that the majority of the world's population rejects Christ, that the world just gets darker and more ungodly right up to the resurrection of the last two witnesses and martyrs, and...

Uh, there is nothing in scripture that equates Abbadon, the destroyer, specifically with Satan. That's an assumption we just tend to make, so take your own advice.

I believe that you know the Lord and have a strong desire to learn more about Him, but honestly, I've never been a very good teacher. I have difficulty explaining things in simple terms and people have difficulty understanding. After teaching a Sunday school class one of the older deacons said...

Interesting, in the 25 years since I received Him, I've never heard anyone in a congregation say such, but then all had the understanding that the blood of Christ was sufficient payment for the propitiation of all their sin. Of course most of my acquaintances and friends in the church were...

I'm out (I hope) there's enough maturity and understanding found here to make my comments redundant. I've got wood to split.

Isaiah chapter 53 is the gospel. Just substitute the name Jesus in place of "my righteous servant" and consider what it says in verse 10 very carefully. Jesus' ministry didn't change the gospel as Isaiah laid it out, but fulfilled Isaiah's prophetic statements and they reveal the key element of...

That's kind of Masonic doctrine, not Christian. The only thing required of Christians is that we witness Christ, make disciples of men, and expose the hidden things of darkness. That's what is referred to as the great commission. Where did you get the notion that we were meant to change the...

No, the doctrine has been rejected by many because of our notions of free will. James Wesley was largely responsible for the formation of the Methodist Church, a fairly large denomination, and that split occured primarily over the argument of man's "free will" against Martin Luther's concept of...

No thanks. I'm not questioning your faith, just challenging your understanding (which will change over time. Everyone's does.)

Uh, what's the point of judging a leaders "worthiness" at the judgment?

Sorry, but we were discussing the means of salvation in the context of "good works vs works of the law." It's not our evil works that condemn us, because we stand condemned by our fallen nature, creatures of wrath, and citizens (if you will) of the kingdom of darkness, until we are delivered...

I deleted your quote and just asked you that, but i suppose anyone could answer.

Repentance is the work of God through the Holy Spirit.

The doctrine of the perseverance of the saints is old and worth examining.

Your definition of carnal doesn't fit what Paul even said of himself. Christians have a dual nature to contend with until the full redemption (the redemption of our bodies.) 23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of...