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Ah bbyrd...it's really best we don't go around this merry-go-round again, yeah? I know what you think, you know what I think. How about you ignore me if you think I'm wrong, instead of reminding me that you still disagree (I don't really need reminding, thanks), and I'll do the same to you.

Actually, I disagree with this (surprise! Sorry...I'm not deliberately disagreeing with you so much!). I think the bible is pretty clear that anyone who truly believes can be assured in that salvation. Jesus tells us that he will not loose any the Father has given him. The Paul tells us in...

But one can hardly say that all the relationships here fit the exact mold you're going with, can we? The Bride is not exactly traditional. The groom and...well...the groom's Father isn't really either. And Paul, while, true, is also 'servant' to Christ, he is also part of the Bride, to whom he...

The bible says a lot about the sort of relationship we are to have...and are capable of having, with Jesus now. And yes, it's truly amazing. It changes lives, it changes cultures and it gives hope and joy and beauty. However, the bible still gives us a very clear understanding that what we have...

I don't have a problem with old earthers...I'm married to one! I don't even have a problem with making assumptions...up to a point. But I think we have to be super careful about making leaps based on our assumptions. If you want to 'wonder' if Adam and Eve had heaps of kids before the Genesis...

Whoa! Wait! I'm sorry. I don't necessarily agree with those who see these 'men of reknown' as Angels, but this? Adam and Eve having "possibly hundreds" of kids before the fall. Assumption city...You've taken a phrase given to Eve as her punishment, and made wild leaps and jumps from it. The text...

But we are. In one way or another, despite our best efforts, I am sure we are all probably to be found hypocrites. I mean...even Peter was a hypocrite...telling people God loved the Gentiles equally, but then going and eating with the Jews separately . Paul had to call him out on it. So...I...

I think perhaps the 'consumation' imagry is still yet to come. In the "Already, Not Yet" sort of way. We are certainly betrothed, which, in Christ's day, was just as binding as an actual marriage in many ways. But, the wedding has not yet taken place. The 'wedding' being the return of Christ to...

Ha! Well, I'm very much the same...more just putting forth my understanding rather than trying to actively sway. We obviously just read it very differently, and that's cool! I think I'll be equally as happy to be a guest...I love a good wedding!

Cool. Actually...I'm not one of those who think even Dispenationalists will falter under such circumstances. First, we're promised that Christ holds us, not the other way around, and his grip is stronger than our troubles. Second, our (and their) hope is in something more than just the Rapture...

I'm guessing by "the first verse" you mean this? Husbands, love your wives, as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her, that he might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water with the word, so that he might present the church to himself in splendor, without spot or...

This may be true. Except, in the biblical case I see one fact outweighing that consideration: the body of Christ. Yes, there is mention of 'guests', but the true focual point is always the Bride, who, in point of fact is 'the guest of honor' at said wedding and supper. And, as we must see as we...

Okay, fair enough. Let's look at the parables. The parable of the ten virgins. What is Christ's main point in this parable? Verses 12-13 tell us: But he answered, ‘Truly, I say to you, I do not know you.’ Watch therefore, for you know neither the day nor the hour. -Matthew 25:12–13 It's for...

It's interesting you say it like this. Let me perhaps flip the tables on you and ask you in return...will you be prepared if the Rapture is not pretribulational? How will you handle having to go through a time of terrible tribulation? Antichrist? Etc? Will it effect your faith? Will you be ready?

There's no place that literally comes out and says 'Trinity' either, but the doctrine is clear. You would say the word 'Rapture' isn't in scripture, but you clearly believe it. Likewise, the Church is clearly painted as the bride of Christ. Thus: Husbands, love your wives, as Christ loved the...

Wait...I did? I'm pretty sure I answered that? Maybe to someone else? Hang on...I'll look... No...I answered you in post #88. I said: "Male and female he created them, and he blessed them and named them Man when they were created. -Genesis 5:2 Yes, 'adam' is the word in Hebrew for 'man', but...

To be perfectly honest, I'm only 40% sure I know what you're trying to communicate here. So I might be completely off on a different track...in which case...sorry! My point was; we don't need to study the Trinity to find the importance of being male and female. Our own natures give us a...

No. Other issues going on.

It's cool to think we'll spend the rest of eternity learning new things about God, but never knowing all there is to know about him, isn't it? And sort of mind blowing. But...I'm glad there's some mystery and un-knowableness (is that a word?!) there. Who wants a God who can be understood by...

I'll say!