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  1. Soverign Grace

    I'm concerned that Trump is illuminati

    I haven't studied Daniel. I know a lot of the bible but I'm still weak in certain parts of it. Only recently - a few months - have my eyes been opened to Revelations being fulfilled. I've heard of preterism - the belief that Christ already came back. I know someone who was a strong Christian...
  2. Soverign Grace

    I'm concerned that Trump is illuminati

    Exactly. They're experts at fooling people. And what better way to fool the masses than to have someone sail into office saying all the right things? We're not told "by their words ye shall know them" we're told "by their fruits ye shall know them." Did you read that Kennedy was the one...
  3. Soverign Grace

    I'm concerned that Trump is illuminati

    I think you hit the nail on the head. We were so desperate for hope that he comes charging in like a knight in shining armor. He may be all that - I just don't know at this point. That's astute reasoning: the very same type of majority group think will welcome the Antichrist. "A prudent...
  4. Soverign Grace

    I'm concerned that Trump is illuminati

    No, not worry, possibly alert others. I know God is in control, but God never told us to walk on blindly. "A prudent man foreseeth the evil, and hideth himself: but the simple pass on, and are punished." - Proverbs 22:3
  5. Soverign Grace

    I'm concerned that Trump is illuminati

    First of all, I'm not saying that Trump IS illuminati, I'm just saying that instead of falling all over ourselves believing he is our savior, we should be more discerning. He very well may be pro-Christian - I don't know. I'm just walking circumspectly. "By their FRUITS ye shall know them."...
  6. Soverign Grace

    I'm concerned that Trump is illuminati

    Someone told me that they don't believe the powers that be would allow someone into office who they didn't want. We know Satan is the deceiver - what better way to deceive Christians than by planting someone who SAYS all the right things? But we are to judge their FRUIT. He's been lying. We...
  7. Soverign Grace

    I'm concerned that Trump is illuminati

    I tend to think we're close too. In fact, I hope and pray we're close.
  8. Soverign Grace

    I'm concerned that Trump is illuminati

    It's just speculation at this point - I read that about him being the antichrist and I don't know if it has merit, but I am concerned that his fruit isn't good - only his talk. I'm not sure about much right now. I'm afraid you are badly deluded. Obama did NOT do a good job and he is evil. I'm...
  9. Soverign Grace

    I'm concerned that Trump is illuminati

    Yes but if it is all part of the plan then we should NOT be deluded. I'm concerned about the Scripture that says "if possible the elect will be deceived" - I take that verse as a warning, not to fret, but to be aware and alert. I'm afraid too many people aren't questioning Trump's actions and...
  10. Soverign Grace

    I'm concerned that Trump is illuminati

    Anyone can ~appear~ to be anything. I too thought he was anti-establishment. I'm just looking at his fruit. What I see is mostly talk. He may be legitimate, and just have a lot against him. I don't know. Sometimes we think simplistically, when Satan is diabolical. It's more abstract-type...
  11. Soverign Grace

    I'm concerned that Trump is illuminati

    You have a good grasp on it. I think he has to be aware too - he's not a stupid man. He may bumble in his talking sometimes but we shouldn't let that fool us - he's shrewd. I too thought that he was in danger if he is legitimate. The FBI has a gun they can shoot that makes it look like someone...
  12. Soverign Grace

    I'm concerned that Trump is illuminati

    Doesn't surprise me. I had an elder want to give me a Christian 'hug' that was more than that. A woman knows. We attended a church where the owners were a very corrupt family. Someone thought they were using the church as their private piggy bank. But that's a wise point - to keep one's eyes on...
  13. Soverign Grace

    I'm concerned that Trump is illuminati

    I'm not claiming that Trump IS the antichrist, just that it's possible that he's a plant. I know everyone is up in arms because we all see Trump as a savior after 8 years of an anti-Christian anti-American president, but I studied demonology and I know how cunning the evil one is. It isn't easy...
  14. Soverign Grace

    I'm concerned that Trump is illuminati

    Yes, but how better to deceive the very elect than putting a man in place that everyone hates...so that Christians will reason just as you have reasoned. It's abstract thinking, to be sure, but nevertheless we have to walk circumspectly as the evil one is cunning.
  15. Soverign Grace

    I'm concerned that Trump is illuminati

    I'm well aware of that. I have much fear of liberals as they've become unhinged. On the flip side of the coin, neither do I want to fall under anyone's spell just because they're saying the right words. And it's absolutely despicable what they're doing to Kavanaugh. I'm unsure what to think...
  16. Soverign Grace

    I'm concerned that Trump is illuminati

    Maybe - maybe not. We're warned that even the elect will be deceived. Why was that put in the bible if it wasn't a warning to be cautious?
  17. Soverign Grace

    I'm concerned that Trump is illuminati

    I'm trying to bounce off of others. I don't know what is real now - there is so much illusion. Scripture warns us that even the elect will be deceived. Something to think about.
  18. Soverign Grace

    I'm concerned that Trump is illuminati

    Other Christians are thinking what I am. Don't get me wrong - I agree with Trump's agenda - if it is his. I just doubt it at this point because it's all talk and no action. What do others think of this: Is Donald Trump The Antichrist
  19. Soverign Grace

    I'm concerned that Trump is illuminati

    That's my point: he can very well be SPEAKING AGAINST IT, while at the same time FULFILLING THE ILLUMINATI GOALS. It might be a big con job - which I'm starting to think that it is. Haven't you ever had someone lie to you? They SAY one thing while DOING another. I'm starting to believe that...