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  1. J

    When were you created

    Ultimately, the age of a person's spirit is not something that is point-blank explained in the Bible. We can look at a handful of verses, have different interpretations of them, etc.
  2. J

    True Trinity.

    Again, truth doesn't comes from people arguing (or talking) on a forum. I was asking to better understand your view. If I want to discover Truth, I turn to God.
  3. J

    True Trinity.

    No. Truth comes from God, not from people arguing on debate forums. I am not interested in trying to change your views, and would appreciate it if you show me the same courtesy. In fact, I insist upon it. Is that ok with you?
  4. J

    True Trinity.

    I am sorry I misunderstood, and thank you for not getting offended! I do not understand what you mean by "diversified oneness", but that's ok. 3. Oh this is a big verse :) and very much showing the multiple divine persons. Again, I'm anti-debate. You're welcome to ask to understand, but...
  5. J

    True Trinity.

    From my perspective, you view seems to be a modulist. For me, I'm less name-literally-specifically focused, taking a more symbolic approach to things.
  6. J

    True Trinity.

    Thank you for sharing your view here. It does help me understand you better, though obviously I see things differently.
  7. J

    True Trinity.

    They all usually go by titles. Only Jesus is given a name specifically, and heck both of those names are titles themselves.
  8. J

    True Trinity.

    There's a lot. For me to best answer, would you mind specifying which sub-point you're looking to address?
  9. J

    True Trinity.

    Scripture & study & revelation. I acknowledge that you have a different view of this and totally respect that.
  10. J

    True Trinity.

    Three different persons (Father, Son, Spirit). One God.
  11. J

    True Trinity.

    Clarifying here: I do not believe the Athanasian Creed, which is the academic/historical understanding of the historical / Creedal Trinitarian views. I specifically reject this, specifically on the point of *how* three are one.
  12. J

    When were you created

    This is a point you'll find Christians all over the place, particularly with people quoting Jeremiah 1:5. Personally, I'm of the the belief that a newborn's spirit is indeed much older than 9 month, and existed before their mortal body was created in the womb.
  13. J

    True Trinity.

    Feel totally free to copy it down. A quick big picture thing: I'm really big into understand other people (hence why I asked you about your beliefs, honest curiosity) and into discussion things. I'm really not into "debate" which to me... frankly comes off (at best) as pointless ego-centric...
  14. J

    True Trinity.

    I and Athanasian Christians (aka Christians that believe the Athanasian Creed) both believe: Every single word about Christ in the Bible. The Son of God, Jesus Christ is 100% divine. The Father is 100% divine. The Holy Spirit is 100% divine. The Father, Son, and Spirit are all without beginning...
  15. J

    True Trinity.

    I do see that and do appreciate you explaining your view. Thank you.
  16. J

    True Trinity.

    FYI- I'm not a Trinitarian ;)
  17. J

    True Trinity.

    FWIW, classical Trinitarian beliefs are that the Father and Son are two different persons. Along with the Spirit being a third person. They are one God and (in classical Trinitarian) one being.
  18. J

    End Time Christian Zionism

    FWIW: "Mormon" missionaries don't operate like BOL.
  19. J

    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    Another thing that doesn't work for proselytizing: lying about another person's faith to to their face.
  20. J

    What Mormons Believe--according to a Former BYU Professor

    Mary, other Christians look towards God for authority. Repeatedly bearing false witness and totally ignoring key parts about other people's faith (such as the role of God Himself) does not make a person want to join (generic) your faith. Rather it deters them and makes (generic) you look like...