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  1. Wormwood

    A Reasonable Faith

    Why do you make such accusations about something you have zero knowledge on? Why do you think he talks about how information is understood and catergorized in the book if not to talk about genetic information and our understanding of DNA? That is kind of the entire point. You are too quick to...
  2. Wormwood

    A Reasonable Faith

    River, you are speaking from complete ignorance...again. First, you obviously haven't read the book so you are off shooting first and asking questions later...yet again. Meyer goes into great detail to explain types of information and how we assess what "information" is and how it can be...
  3. Wormwood

    Replacement Theology

    As I see it, the benefit/blessing of being an Israelite, according to the inspired author Paul is that they were entrusted with the very oracles of God (Romans 3:2). Paul says nothing about unique plans for salvation, the importance of temples, animal sacrifices or special privileges or...
  4. Wormwood

    Replacement Theology

    The church is the fulfillment of all of God's promises. I don't like the term "replacement theology" because I don't think the church "replaces" Israel. Rather, I think the church is true Israel that consists of both Jews and Gentiles. Gentiles have been grafted in and through faith in the...
  5. Wormwood

    Biblical literalism correlates with anti-science

    The difference between early scientists and the predominant scientific worldview today is that early scientists...and many Christian scientists today...see their work as exploring and understanding the mind and handiwork of God. Their view was that things could be discovered because they were...
  6. Wormwood

    Why The Pre Trib Rapture Is God's Judgment On His House First

    Just walking through the Greek like you requested. I wasn't anticipating changing your mind. Just giving my rationale.
  7. Wormwood

    Why The Pre Trib Rapture Is God's Judgment On His House First

    First, its not unusual for scholars to disagree. Again, my interpretation is not the only one, I am simply arguing that it is a valid one. As for the Greek: Verbs determine their tense by their form, endings and sometimes augments. Most future tense verbs are formed by adding a sigma to the...
  8. Wormwood

    Hi from a new guy

    Welcome JohnP. Glad to have you here!
  9. Wormwood

    Why The Pre Trib Rapture Is God's Judgment On His House First

    No, he is dealing with the Greek. Its an "NIV" commentary. He isn't getting this from the NIV version because it says the opposite of what he is arguing. What good would it do if I went word by word through the Greek? You don't know Greek. Im using English translations so you can follow...
  10. Wormwood

    A Reasonable Faith

    For those of you who enjoy being edified by the brilliance of our God in his creation.... http://www.wsj.com/articles/eric-metaxas-science-increasingly-makes-the-case-for-god-1419544568
  11. Wormwood

    Why The Pre Trib Rapture Is God's Judgment On His House First

    There are other scholars other than Mounce out there. Not to mention that Mounce does not deny these are present participles in verse 4. You are obfuscating the discussion Stan. I am not interested in what you do or do not have a problem with. I am interested in what the Greek says. The...
  12. Wormwood

    Why The Pre Trib Rapture Is God's Judgment On His House First

    It sounded more like you were ignoring my points and pointing to Mounce as the final answer without any real explanation at all. I was simply trying to expound on my point about how the Greek reads and why other translations differ with the NIV. No, this is simply not true. The Koine Greek is...
  13. Wormwood

    Why The Pre Trib Rapture Is God's Judgment On His House First

    ATP, Ezekiel was written prior to the building of the second Temple. Why should we skip that temple and assume he is writing about a third? I am not saying Ezekiel is wrong. I am saying he is being prophetic. Many of the prophecies in the OT were predictions of Jesus. Jesus said ALL of the...
  14. Wormwood

    Why The Pre Trib Rapture Is God's Judgment On His House First

    Yes, the ESV also makes reference to the future, but does not change the tense of exalts, opposes and proclaims to make the point. Again, no one is arguing that the man of lawlessness will be revealed in the future. The question is whether or not he is currently exalting himself, opposing God...
  15. Wormwood

    Why The Pre Trib Rapture Is God's Judgment On His House First

    Fair enough. The three words in Greek that I highlighted are present participles. That is a fact. Mounce is not the only Greek scholar who has translated Scripture. There are many translations that render this differently because there is too much translator bias in these verses. Its no...
  16. Wormwood

    Why The Pre Trib Rapture Is God's Judgment On His House First

    It is factual StanJ. Let me post the section in question and walk through it with you. I will use the ESV because it more appropriately designates the verbs. 1. This section is about the Thessalonians being presently alarmed about missing "the day of the Lord." This is a present concern...
  17. Wormwood

    Why The Pre Trib Rapture Is God's Judgment On His House First

    ATP, The NIV uses future verbs in this section which is an error. The verbs are present participles indicating ongoing actions of the "man of lawlessness" and not a future action. Whoever this "man" was or is, he was doing his lawless work in Paul's day. He will be revealed and destroyed...
  18. Wormwood

    Why The Pre Trib Rapture Is God's Judgment On His House First

    I don't believe it does apply to the Antichrist. I don't even think there will be "the Antichrist." I think there are many antichrists and there have been since the Apostles. Marcus, I believe Jesus is speaking of the final destruction of the Temple in 70AD there. The context there seems to...
  19. Wormwood

    Why The Pre Trib Rapture Is God's Judgment On His House First

    ATP, I do not believe the book of Revelation is written in chronological fashion. I believe it is a series of revelations depicting the same thing from different perspectives. Jesus is portrayed as returning and final judgment occurs many times in Revelation. Thus, there are five cyclical...