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  1. Wormwood

    Does one need to study the bible?

    Well, as you probably guess, I think you are misunderstanding those verses. Let me ask you, Johnlove, why are we conversing? I believe I have the Holy Spirit, as do you. So, according to you, we have nothing to say to each other. I cannot build you up and you cannot build me up. We each...
  2. Wormwood

    Do you believe Jesus has given you the Holy Spirit?

    Haha, thank you aspen. Usually I don't make it a full month!
  3. Wormwood

    Does one need to study the bible?

    Yes, God fills us with a desire to do what pleases Him. This is not teaching that this means we are all our own spiritual silos who don't need help from anyone. The verses I quoted clearly teach that these teachers are for the purpose of building up Christians...not teaching non-Christians...
  4. Wormwood

    Do you believe Jesus has given you the Holy Spirit?

    No, that is not what I was saying. Don't worry about it. I misunderstand what people are trying to say all the time! :)
  5. Wormwood

    Does one need to study the bible?

    Ok, I will show you that you are wrong: “And God has appointed in the church first apostles, second prophets, third teachers, then miracles, then gifts of healing, helping, administrating, and various kinds of tongues.” (1 Corinthians 12:28, ESV) “And he gave the apostles, the prophets, the...
  6. Wormwood

    Do you believe Jesus has given you the Holy Spirit?

    What are you talking about? Where did I accuse you or say you were a gnostic? I said John was writing about Gnostics in his epistle and his words are still relevant today because there is still similar teaching going around that is like what the Gnostics taught that used Christ to promote sin...
  7. Wormwood

    Do you believe Jesus has given you the Holy Spirit?

    The Holy Spirit who wrote this to believers, not false teachers. This was to protect believers from the teachings of these "anti-Christs." There is nothing new under the sun. The same types of teachings that the Gnostics propogated are at work in the Church today. So, yes, these verses are...
  8. Wormwood

    Does one need to study the bible?

    John, That is a terrible characterization of Seminary. People go to seminary because they want to devote their full time to studying the Scriptures and learn from wise teachers who have committed their lives to knowing the Word of God in every detail. No, you do not have to attend Seminary to...
  9. Wormwood

    Does one need to study the bible?

    John, Another case of you taking Scripture out of context. Lets look at the whole passage. So here in the same passage Paul says that they are doing "wrong and defraud" and then later says, "you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified." The point here is not that a Christian can...
  10. Wormwood

    Do you believe Jesus has given you the Holy Spirit?

    Johnlove, Again, the context of 1 John is false teachers, specifically early Gnostics. If you knew the historical context of this letter you would understand what John is saying. We must keep into account the situation and the people being written to in the biblical text. To rip it out of...
  11. Wormwood

    Blood does not save, love does.

    I am not discounting it, nor am I suggesting it is "silly." I am just saying that we cannot understand the cross as love if we do not understand it as substitution. Yes, Jesus laid down his life "for another." In essence, he took our penalty and suffered in our place. I guess what I am...
  12. Wormwood

    Do you believe Jesus has given you the Holy Spirit?

    Johnlove, If you haven't sinned for 40 years, good for you. Yes we are called to be perfect. However, the Bible is very clear that Christian CAN sin and there is forgiveness in Christ. In fact, sin has no power over the Christian anymore that they must obey it. By the power of the Spirit...
  13. Wormwood

    Do you believe Jesus has given you the Holy Spirit?

    Not that I have already obtained this or am already perfect, but I press on to make it my own, because Christ Jesus has made me his own. 13 Brothers, I do not consider that I have made it my own. But one thing I do: forgetting what lies behind and straining forward to what lies ahead, 14 I press...
  14. Wormwood

    Do you believe Jesus has given you the Holy Spirit?

    Who taught you? Because the Church for 2000+ years has never believed this to mean one can never sin. So, I have 2000 years of Christian teaching and believers throughout history that say you are wrong. But I am sure you have Jesus teaching you directly so that goes against what Christians...
  15. Wormwood

    Do you believe Jesus has given you the Holy Spirit?

    "Sins" is a present participle (is sinning). It is describing the person who lives in perpetual sin. We are called to live holy and godly lives. Someone who lives a lifestyle of sin and claims to be a Christian is a liar. That is the point of the text. It is not teaching that a Christian...
  16. Wormwood

    Blood does not save, love does.

    I agree that this is part of what the cross is about. However, being murdered by Romans on a cross makes no sense apart from substitution. The cross is not merely a moral example. In my mind, allowing one's self to be butchered by a mob is no moral example of anything if there is no...
  17. Wormwood

    Is it possible to 'hate the sin and love the sinner' without being a self righteous jerk?

    I agree that some Christians can be self-righteous jerks. No arguing there. However, I would not label such a person as one who "hates the sin but loves the sinner." It seems they hate both, and often ignore the sin in their own lives. However, I also would say that the church regularly gets...
  18. Wormwood

    Do you believe Jesus has given you the Holy Spirit?

    Johnlove, No one agrees with you. More than that, the church has never taught such nonsense that once someone becomes a Christian they will never sin again. Paul opposed Peter to his face for his sin of bigotry and favoritism. Paul was in an argument about Barnabas that he later repented...
  19. Wormwood

    Do you believe Jesus has given you the Holy Spirit?

    Johnlove, I do not think it is wise to discount a clear promise in the Scriptures due to an unusual situation where the Gospel was preached in Samaria for the first time. If you knew the Scriptures, you would know that there are three unusual bestowals of the Holy Spirit with signs in the book...
  20. Wormwood

    Do you believe Jesus has given you the Holy Spirit?

    Because God promised to give his Holy Spirit to all who believe, repent and are baptized. And Peter said to them, "Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39 For the promise is for...