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  1. GracePeace

    What Is "Salvation" In 1 Corinthians 10?

    Paul said those things that were written apply to Christians.
  2. GracePeace

    What Is "Salvation" In 1 Corinthians 10?

    1 Corinthians 10 seems to disagree. Which part of what I was claiming it taught were you disagreeing with?
  3. GracePeace

    What Is "Salvation" In 1 Corinthians 10?

    I disagree. Matthew 11 28Come to Me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. 29Take my yoke upon you, and learn from me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. Christ is not saying, "Come and do not work," He is saying that "rest" is...
  4. GracePeace

    What Is "Salvation" In 1 Corinthians 10?

    No, I'd like you to address what is being taught here: Paul is warning the church against sinning.
  5. GracePeace

    What Is "Salvation" In 1 Corinthians 10?

    Right. Initially, Moses told Pharaoh to let the people go so they can go and serve God. The same Law says that God tested them to see if they would keep His commands in His land. The opposite of rest is torment (those who receive the mark will be tormented and have no rest). Keeping God's...
  6. GracePeace

    What Is "Salvation" In 1 Corinthians 10?

    They were saved from Egypt by the blood of lambs (we're saved from the Kingdom of satan, and bondage to sin, by Christ's blood). They were baptized into Moses (we are baptized into Christ). They ate manna (we take Communion). Paul sets up a parallel in order to move further and establish...
  7. GracePeace

    What Is "Salvation" In 1 Corinthians 10?

    Not sure what's difficult. The opening verses list a few of the aspects of the Jews' salvation from Egypt, being baptized into Moses, and eating manna--all corresponding, according to Paul, to the Christian experience--and he goes on to warn that, irrespectively, they sinned after all of these...
  8. GracePeace

    What Is "Salvation" In 1 Corinthians 10?

    According to Paul, the Jews' salvation was a type of what we who believe are now experiencing--he relates all of their experiences to Christians' experiences.
  9. GracePeace

    What Is "Salvation" In 1 Corinthians 10?

    Yeah, we're "saved", and, after being "saved", Paul says, we must be careful how we live, or else we will be punished for sinning. The main issue here is how you are defining "saved"--I think it is only partially accurate, according to what we are reading here.
  10. GracePeace

    What Is "Salvation" In 1 Corinthians 10?

    Well, that's what Paul is teaching, isn't it? Isn't this the purport of all of Scripture, as well? Psalm 85 8Let me hear what God the LORD will speak, for he will speak peace to his people, to his saints; but let them not turn back to folly.
  11. GracePeace

    What Is "Salvation" In 1 Corinthians 10?

    1 Corinthians 10 (ESV) 1For I do not want you to be unaware, brothers,a that our fathers were all under the cloud, and all passed through the sea, 2and all were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea, 3and all ate the same spiritual food, 4and all drank the same spiritual drink. For...
  12. GracePeace

    What Is "Salvation" In 1 Corinthians 10?

    Paul doesn't contradict himself, though he may contradict some of the ways we traditionally have interpreted what he has said--as Peter has warned his writings are difficult to understand. If we find inconsistencies in our understandings of Paul, if he sounds incoherent, therefore, we should...
  13. GracePeace

    What Is "Salvation" In 1 Corinthians 10?

    Which part of what I said were you disagreeing with?
  14. GracePeace

    What Is "Salvation" In 1 Corinthians 10?

    Yes, Paul was speaking to the Church (those "saved from the penalty of sin", as you would put it), telling them these things about what "salvation" and Christianity were about, and how these things worked in Christianity.
  15. GracePeace

    What Is "Salvation" In 1 Corinthians 10?

    Paul's argument is that the "saved" (the Church) must be careful how they live after having been saved, or else they will fall under God's wrath, and not inherit the promise.
  16. GracePeace

    What Is "Salvation" In 1 Corinthians 10?

    In 1 Corinthians 10, the "salvation" of Christians is said to be the anti-type to the deliverance from the house of bondage, and from God's wrath there, which the Jews experienced. 1. The Jews spread the blood of a lamb on the doorposts of their homes, and were spared from God's wrath--we are...
  17. GracePeace

    Homosexuality: Wrong or Right?

    The gays have to not only pervert sexuality, but, hating even their own selves, they even pervert homosexuality, denying its sterility in adopting children to pretend to be what they never can be. It's perversion upon perversion. God can save.
  18. GracePeace

    Homosexuality: Wrong or Right?

    It would be a sin to show compassion to @Arthur81--anyone who knows the Scripture knows there are times when God PROHIBITS compassion, meaning that "compassion" in such cases is faux "compassion", not real compassion (compassion that God commands is the only true compassion)--because he's not...
  19. GracePeace

    Homosexuality: Wrong or Right?

    Oops, you forgot the instruction he had already given on the matter: 1 Corinthians 7 1Now concerning the things about which you wrote, it is good for a man not to touch a woman. 2But because of immoralities, each man is to have his own wife, and each woman is to have her own husband. Each man...
  20. GracePeace

    Homosexuality: Wrong or Right?

    I think he means the fad of "gay christianity".