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  1. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ (Romans 8:1)

    LOL Wow Yeah, it makes sense now. You know the drill. Proverbs 18 13He who answers a matter before he hears it— this is folly and disgrace to him.
  2. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ (Romans 8:1)

    I know you have a lot of ideas in your mind that you are burning to share with everyone (for which you should really go make your own thread, not commandeer others' threads)... Proverbs 18 2A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion. Again, are you agreeing...
  3. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ (Romans 8:1)

    Good, because it's plainly stated in Scripture. "Acting against conscience" is pretty much "definitionally" sin (except there're sins we can commit without knowing we're committing them, which would be "OUTSIDE" of knowledge, not "WITH" knowledge). How? Is "each man must be fully convinced in...
  4. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ (Romans 8:1)

    1. I've "failed"! Oh, no! You've made me so sad that you don't approve of me! I'm going to go cry now! LOL! 2. With all that you've said, what ever thoughts you wanted to share with everyone--all of that aside, because I think, in your zeal to correct someone, so as to appear correct about...
  5. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ (Romans 8:1)

    I never said "there is condemnation abiding in Christ from Yahweh". I said there is a superficial problem between the fact that "there is... no condemnation for those in Christ" (Ro 8:1) and the fact that the one who sins by breaking the rule "let each man be fully convinced in his own mind" is...
  6. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ (Romans 8:1)

    The rule of life he is laying down is a rule governing true believers. Again, you denied you'd ever say it, you have to deny the fact that he is writing to and instructing true believers on how they are to behave toward one another. Are you saying you, a "true believer", have NEVER judged...
  7. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ (Romans 8:1)

    I don't think it's limited to one or the other. I think there is an important message here. Isaiah 43 11I, I am the LORD, and besides me there is no savior. Isaiah 44 6Thus says the LORD, the King of Israel and his Redeemer, the LORD of hosts: “I am the first and I am the last; besides me there...
  8. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ (Romans 8:1)

    I'd answered this previously (not sure if you hadn't gotten a chance to respond to it, or what)--in case it is necessary, I'll share it again here Of someone whose Master can make him stand (v4)--he's a true believer, not a false believer (actually, there is no unbeliever mentioned, no...
  9. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ (Romans 8:1)

    1. We have 80% more UV, so it's precarious. 2. I love Blackberries and Pears, but they DO NOT enjoy being up here! LOL At least their more tender parts do not. The Apples don't have the same issues.
  10. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ (Romans 8:1)

    1. "Static": not moving from. 2. No, Paul is not "clear" on that--eg (beside the glaring example of Ro 14:23), Ro 11 says the Gentiles who were grafted in by faith can also be cut off for unbelief. Begging the question--that's the topic of the discussion. Christians don't sin? Rather, Paul...
  11. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ (Romans 8:1)

    @CadyandZoe You're in Phoenix? I'm just north of you, in Flagstaff! It's so hot up here, now, my Pear tree and Blackberry bushes get singed in the afternoon heat! I dump gallons of water on them, but, really, they need artificial shade. I think we have 80% more UV than sea level.
  12. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ (Romans 8:1)

    1 Corinthians 8 7However, not all people have this knowledge; but some, being accustomed to the idol until now, eat food as if it were sacrificed to an idol; and their conscience, being weak, is defiled. 8Now food will not bring us [c]close to God; we are neither [d]the worse if we do not eat...
  13. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ (Romans 8:1)

    "Authority" is a generic thing. We are discussing His Word to check what it is that He has said He uses His "authority" to do. In other words, we both agree that God has infinite power, but we do not agree on what God applies His power to--ie, we do not agree on His Word, which is what He has...
  14. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ (Romans 8:1)

    More specifically, it declares there is no condemnation for those "in Christ", but this verse makes no statement about "in Christ" being a static state--and the quandary of the condemnation of the one who sins Ro 14:23 can only be resolved by recognizing that Scripture speaks of true believers...
  15. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ (Romans 8:1)

    Why does Paul warn Christians that if they walk after the flesh they will die (Ro 8:12,13)? Why does he call the Corinthians "carnal" and reprimand them for so many sins, and warn them "the unrighteous will not inherit God's Kingdom" right after reprimanding them for their unrighteousness? Is...
  16. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ (Romans 8:1)

    Right, I know your view--this discussion is all about laying out evidence proving your view is incoherent.
  17. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ (Romans 8:1)

    One of his concerns is faith ("each man must be fully convinced in his own mind"), thus it is not a stretch to assert that one of his concerns would be doubt (the opposite of faith). Clearly, "doubt" is in view in Romans 14:23, because he explains "but he who doubts is condemned if he eats...
  18. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ (Romans 8:1)

    Yeah, the OP is about how people abuse Romans 8:1.
  19. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ (Romans 8:1)

    How is the sinning Christian "condemned" if there's no condemnation "in Christ"?
  20. GracePeace

    No Condemnation For Those In Christ (Romans 8:1)

    I know your point--this discussion debunks it. Again, abiding is by keeping commands (Jn 15; 1 Jn 3:23, 24), which explains how those "in Him" aren't condemned, but a Christian who doesn't walk by faith (who is therefore sinning) is "condemned" (they're not abiding in Him). 1. Let me just say...