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  1. dad

    When will God gather Israel?

    False doctrine. Not all the world though, when Jesus returns. Obviously. He does not rule a fire pit. His enemies are consumed, not the planet. Having fun making stuff up whole of cloth? Who says only Jews are saved in the end? Ridiculous and racist.
  2. dad

    When will God gather Israel?

    The covenant has nothing to do with God restoring them any time before they are saved and He does it. They are not restored today by any stretch of the imagination. They are a mostly secular nation whose big city is spiritually also called Sodom and Gomorrah that rejected God's Son. They are not...
  3. dad

    When will God gather Israel?

    Sorry that is not any issue to me, sir. The Jews are the Jews. Israel is Israel, not a tomato.
  4. dad

    When will God gather Israel?

    Actually Satan is not cast down to the earth in the end yet having but a short time. The demons here now, along with all the ones that come here from the pit and the heavens will be sent away, yes. OK Actually the bride is raised long before that in the Rapture. So we will have been with Him...
  5. dad

    When will God gather Israel?

    Generally, that makes some sense. However, the word overcome today almost sounds like some marathon, or triathlon or something. In many cases believers have endured terrible things and for a long time. The idea, however, for the Jewish people, the sons of Jacob and Abraham in the very end seem...
  6. dad

    When will God gather Israel?

    The spirit is not unbelief. In fact we must believe to get the spirit. Using the word spiritual to wave away how Jesus was flesh and bone after He arose, and so went up to heaven as He again will come from one day is disbelieving, and in your case also dishonoring the bible. I kid you not.
  7. dad

    When will God gather Israel?

    He already decided. He even wrote it down. Jesus in the flesh who rose from the dead will return to earth much the same way He left. No possibility of spiritualizing or waving that away. The cults lose on this one, sorry.
  8. dad

    When will God gather Israel?

    When someone through disbelief waves away simple and clear things from Scripture and uses the word spiritualize as the excuse, it is manifestly evident to those with eyes to see. I do no such foolish thing. He ascended after a certain number of days after His resurrection. Your quest is to...
  9. dad

    When will God gather Israel?

    So what, maybe God gave Israel nukes also to use? Every war where someone does OK that was not expected to means God is on their side? If you know that then you know that it is not a deception when the man rises from the dead, or appears to. Maybe share this inside knowledge? Nothing says that...
  10. dad

    When will God gather Israel?

    That is not an issue, Jesus made it clear He was not a spirit only, but FLESH and bone! Believing the word and Jesus is never a 'blunder'. The spirtitually discerned realize Jesus was what He said and did what He said and will do what He said! Those who are deluded and try to spiritualize it...
  11. dad

    When will God gather Israel?

    You can say the words it is incorrect, but that has zero meaning unless you make a case. You failed to do that. No kidding. Even if it applied to 1948 rather than when God restores the saved remnant in the end, that does not address the topic. Just curious, if that passage exclusively...
  12. dad

    When will God gather Israel?

    Those who deny Jesus will truly come again just as He left are in no position to tell anyone whether they 'hear His voice'. Sorry to break it to you.
  13. dad

    When will God gather Israel?

    Since God stops them all dead, perhaps we should phrase that as an 'attempted' nuclear attack?
  14. dad

    When will God gather Israel?

    And He is giving it back to then soon as they accept Jesus!
  15. dad

    When will God gather Israel?

    No, that seems to be a mark of confusion and an excuse to leave left field and get lost in space.
  16. dad

    When will God gather Israel?

    Maybe a good way for you to conceptualize it, is to think of all those left alive in Israel at the end of the tribulation who finally accept Jesus as Christians. All Israel will be Christians! But those particular Christians have promises of a different kind to look forward to. They were...
  17. dad

    When will God gather Israel?

    Yes of course He is coming as a thief in the night. That does not mean He does not return in body. Not even related. Why pretend? You must know no one has any clue what you are talking about? What truth? What is you imagine we did not expect? His body actually was seen rising into heaven BY...
  18. dad

    When will God gather Israel?

    When God protects someone He does not need the puny firecracker weapons of man. No weapon formed against us shall prosper. God will assure that a remnant of Israel does get saved. No one can change that. All enemies will be flicked away like snots.
  19. dad

    When will God gather Israel?

    Your premise is invented. There will still be nations. Did you think all Israel would be 'rubble' when Jesus lands on the mount of Olives? Armageddon involves a lot more than 10 nations! Rev 16:12 clarifies that. For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the...
  20. dad

    When will God gather Israel?

    It does start at a certain time. It is known also by the time God is here and has destroyed their enemies and etc etc. That was not any time before today. It is not today either. It has zero to do with some self propelled trickle of immigration to that land in history.