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Same reason Jesus does! We will rule here so that means spending some time here. The Rapture or second coming has zero to do with that invented little nugget. We actually rule and reign with Him. Here. That requires some sort of presence.

Why would they have done that? Jesus only starts to rule after He returns.

I see. Are you sure it is not 1 foot off the ground, or 2 inches, or 5 feet under in some cases, or up in the clouds? Why on the ground? In your mind they rush back down almost before they get up there, right?

Well, the rebels might have intent to kill, but their attempt by surrounding the camp of the saints is ended in short order.

Except that we return with Him to earth. We will rule and reign with Him, what did you think that was by Zoom? Will Jesus 'hang out' when ruling? My opinion is that we spend a lot of time on earth helping to rule, while our bases is in New Jerusalem. New Jerusalem is the place He went to...

It doesn't. That's why we know it is not. Isaiah 65:20 There shall be no more thence an infant of days, nor an old man that hath not filled his days: for the child shall die an hundred years old Dying at any age is mortal. Why would anyone age into a child? Right, yet some will die, so they...

We do not need to know why God does everything. Remember, He is raising physical bodies. While anything is possible with God, it seems to make sense to complete the journey to Heaeven for the Supper in new bodies rather than with graveclothes or etc. The entire earth is here and being ruled by...

Because He is coming for His Bride and the marriage supper is in heaven, not here. Naturally He would rescue His Bride from that wrath on earth. At what point? The fire that destroys the world is not till after the 1000 years.

Funny how you make a statement as if it were the final ruling on the matter, rather than as an opinion. Sorry I do not subscribe to the yo yo doctrine of going up in the air with Him only to come right back down. What, He could not change us on the ground!? Then when we look at the bigger...

That is true. The Rapture is about the church. The Jews also have a time in the end when God finishes dealing with them. And there are plenty of non Jewish believers in the Tribulation. After the 1000 years, though, it seems like distinctions fade.

He does not take our life one we are Raptured. We have eternal life. The man who dies at 100 years old in the millennium is not eternal or he would not die. Remember jesus came to fix all that and give us eternal life? The world will still be sinning in the 1000 years, such as those who...

The believers are Raptured here apparently. That voice of Jesus will be in the last days. Not to be confused with the last trumpet of wrath which is later. So we reign a 1000 years with Him. That is of course after He and we return. Not sure what you think you see in Rev 20. Looks like...

Except it ain't so because you say it is so. 1 Thessalonians 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: So the voice of Jesus is like a trumpet, and it will be Jesus in...

That is right, I think, that the final harvest is after He returns. OK, I usually think of that as the return of Christ, but whatever. I don't think so. There are still nations very much alive we rule over in that 1000 years. You seem to be conflating the great white throne judgment at the...

The last of the seven is the seventh. There is also the trump of God. There were many trumpets in the OT. I don't think you can force the voice of the archangel to be the seventh trumpet of wrath? You may choose to adopt that opinion to make your doctrines seem to fit.

Says who? You conflate the wrath trumpets with the voice of the archangel trumpet. When we go up Jesus has not yet come down. The dead who are raised at the end of the millennium are not the Bride. In the Rapture it is the bride.

I see nothing about 'coming' when it is us going (up into the air to be with Him) Neither do I see a need for that trumpet to be one of the trumpets or wrath. So there is nothing here 'clearly' talking about the second coming of Jesus at all. You seem to think the wrath trumpet is the one that...

The time of Jacob's trouble does not mean that Jacob is still alive on earth. That simply refers to his descendants. I never mentioned a harvest. The second coming is not before the trumpets. If you explain what you think the final harvest is, we might look at that.

Neither does the wrath of God. None of which included God's wrath or the Tribulation.