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    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    The rapture is before the days even start probably, at the start of the wrathful seven years. There is no way the days, or months are changed in any way. They are written in stone basically. When it says he will confirm a covenant for seven years that will be seven years. When the angel direct...
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    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    The seven years is what things were shortened to. Claing the given times of prophesy are changed is what is very false. The Great Tribulation is just the second half of the seven years. Why would half of seven years be longer...or shorter? It is what it is. Did you actually think that God...
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    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    False. Christ said the days are shortened, but the seven years includes that. That is a shortened timeframe for earth as He rushes all things to completion! It is not the seven years that are cut short, but any time earth may have had that could have been longer. Don't blame your confusion on God.
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    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    I posted the verses before and after that one. Sorry if context is the enemy of your schemes. Why would anyone think that? Once it is here the clock is ticking and time is short. What whole time? You got one point right. Pour the bubbly. What atonement? Hopefully you are not talking about...
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    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    No one shortens the seven years. Period.
  6. dad

    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    The end comes at the end of the seven years, which includes the Great Trib. The witnesses do not die at the start of it, they START! All before Jesus returns. Who invented that timing? By the way if any poster here is a JW, or mormon, please identify yourselves. Not sure why you feel free to...
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    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    No. The covenant is made for seven years and only broken in the middle of that. There are seven years still, no one shortened what God said would be! What is shortened is included in that last time. Otherwise man would no longer exist and all flesh would die. The Great Tribulation is only the...
  8. dad

    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    I am not forcing anything. The events are very much time related. So one needs to know what is last and what is first, and what is in between as a starting point to comprehension. Let's look at one seal as an example. It is easy to see that it is not the Bride He was talking to here, let alone...
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    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    The witnesses prophesy for 1260 days then they are killed. That is the second half of the seven years. Claiming that the seventh trumpet will blow for years after they die is foolishness. Revelation 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms...
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    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    OK thanks, seems like you have the gist of things
  11. dad

    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    All you are doing is stating an opinion that the vials are not poured out at the end of the tribulation. Because we KNOW they are the completion of His wrath. Prove it. So what? So are the trumpets and vials! The seals showed the whole time that included trumpets and vials. No news there. Of...
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    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    I see. That way you have nothing you need to explain or defend I guess.
  13. dad

    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    So your point is..?
  14. dad

    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    God clearly has the greatest wrath just before and after He comes. Obviously, the final wrath that ends man's rule here is the greatest. As pointed out, the vials were the completion of His wrath. Right, chapter 11 spans the tribulation that ends with Jesus returning and taking over. That does...
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    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    If the vials are in the Tribulation then the wrath is found there. Knowing that God sends angels to pour out heavy judgments in the end also tells us that we are not appointed to wrath. What is stated as I posted was that the vials were the completion of the wrath. Not the only wrath. Rev 14:8...
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    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    The main thing is that it is the wrath of God in the tribulation. God allowing Satan to do his thing is part of that.
  17. dad

    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    True, Satan is angry in that time. The vials are in that time also, and are the wrath of God. Rev 14:8 I saw in heaven another great and marvelous sign: seven angels with the seven last plagues—last, because with them God's wrath is completed Yes it is over by the time the 1000 years start.
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    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    The wrath is not done over tea. It goes on awhile, and the most sever part is at the end. The tribulation is wrath, the vials are the culmination of that wrath poured out, and when Jesus returns, He has vengeance. There is no need to try and limit all wrath to after the seventh trumpet. There is...
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    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    So the seals are opened, and that covers all the seven years. It tells us in capsule form what happens right on up till Jesus returns. If this is the case, then the vials and trumpets that are in later chapters are not to be looked at as if they follow the seals chronologically. Instead, they...
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    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    Not in any way is that remotely close to being true. One does not 'shuffle' Gen 1 to know that Gen 2 is a recap of what was already done. There is no way Jesus could have returned before the trumpets start! There is no way the various trumpets get blown after Jesus returns! Name any reason why...
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