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    Peace, Peace....There is No Peace!

    Shalom, veteran. Look, I know that there was a Temple COMPLEX of buildings, rooms for storage and rooms for the priests and the mikvah below; however, that doesn't mean that it wasn't already COMPLETELY destroyed in the first century A.D.! The Romans literally PULLED the stones apart to get at...
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    The prophets' speaking skills

    Shalom, Apocalypticist. It sounds to me like you are trying to say that men today who speak with "similar conviction" can be compared to the prophets of yesterday, even though they are "backwards," because so were the prophets in their day. Am I right? Is that the argument you are trying to...
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    “THIS” gospel of the kingdom

    Shalom, veteran. You said, "Belief that some of the events of Matt.24 were fulfilled either back in the days of Christ's Apostles or by the Romans in 70 A.D. is... a Preterist belief (Partial Preterism). The belief that Christ's second coming is not a literal coming, or that it happened already...
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    Peace, Peace....There is No Peace!

    Shalom, whirlwind. Show me one stone of the Temple still standing upon another! There are NONE left standing! If you're thinking about the Western Wall (the Wailing Wall), that's a portion of the RETENTION WALL for the level ground on the top of the hill! It's not a part of what was the Temple...
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    Revelation was written during Nero's reign before 70AD

    Shalom, AServantofJC, and Merry Christmas to you! Regarding 1 Corinthians 13:8, follow the word's meaning (using Strong's, for instance): 1 Corinthians 13:8 8 Hee agapee oudepote piptei; eite de profeeteiai, katargeetheesontai; eite gloosai, pausontai; eite gnoosis, katargeetheesetai. Greek...
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    Believe ALL of the Gospels

    Shalom to anyone who is willing to read this: I've been having an interesting discussion with a brother in another forum. It's something that I think could be beneficial for all of you, as well, and it is pertinent to this thread. So, I'm going to give you a little of it. One person quoted the...
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    “THIS” gospel of the kingdom

    Shalom, veteran. It's not "preterism"; it's listening to what Yeshua` was saying! Some of what He warned them about was FOR THEM, not just some nebulous future that didn't ultimately mean anything to them personally! Yeshua` didn't say, "Record all this for a particular future generation!" He...
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    “THIS” gospel of the kingdom

    Shalom, Quantrill. I'll say it again, who during the "ministry" of Yeshua` (Jesus) believed that Yeshua` would have to die? If they believed that He was the Messiah, they would choose to believe that He would reign forever as His ancestor Daveed. So, there was a SUCCESSION of things necessary...
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    Revelation was written during Nero's reign before 70AD

    Shalom, veteran. NO!!! There you go crossing that line again! Daniel 9 is not even CLOSE to being the same event in Daniel 11! You've got to start keeping the prophecies in Daniel separate as they were presented and understand the telescoping way that they unfold in human history! Daniel 9...
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    This generation

    Shalom, veteran. I believe that Arnie and UppsalaDragby are right. You can't put all of the words of Messiah Yeshua`s "Discourse" off into the future, either! I don't like calling it "Partial Preterism" because guys like you take it the wrong way, but call it "partial futurism" for the Olivet...
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    The Trees of Eden...Went down into HELL

    Shalom, whirlwind. One day after the Messiah Yeshua` returns, there will come a special event where there will be this GRAND ceremony and King Yeshua` (Jesus) will have 50 of His special saints - gentlemen of the Old Testament times - famous names, like David, and Solomon, and many of the...
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    Peace, Peace....There is No Peace!

    Shalom, everyone. Guys, I'll just say it again: Don't make the mistake of thinking that the tribulation and the Seventieth Seven of Daniel are one and the same! They are NOT the same thing! I believe that the tribulation (Greek: thlipsis) began in the first century and continues through today...
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    This generation

    Shalom, UppsalaDragby. I believe you are EXACTLY correct. Consider the "generations" that are listed in the genealogy of the Messiah in Matthew 1. If one compares this list of ancestors with the lists found in 1 Samuel through 2 Kings and in 1 and 2 Chronicles, one will discover that there were...
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    The Trees of Eden...Went down into HELL

    Shalom, whirlwind. Well, the reason why we must first address this issue of the "dragon" mess is because of how it is perceived to link to the 'trees in hell" garbage. First, the word is NOT "DRAGON!" The word in Ezekiel 29:3 is "ha-TANIYM," where "ha-" is the definite article. And, with all...
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    Believe ALL of the Gospels

    Shalom, everyone. So far, all I've done is concentrate on one book, Matthew. However, the really important point to this whole thread is to understand that the four Gospels are ALL God's Word. So, when they 2 or more are talking about the same event in Yeshua`s history (and it MUST be the exact...
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    The Trees of Eden...Went down into HELL

    Shabbat shalom, whirlwind. Oh. So now the Pharaoh at the time that Babylon attacked Egypt (we are told in historical records that this was most likely Necho II) could get away with the cop out, "The devil made me do it!"? I'm looking right at the pages in Webster's NewWorld Hebrew Dictionary...
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    Did God need Noah?

    Shabbat shalom, guysmith. Dragonfly has a point, bro'! Yes, God needed Noach. God can do anything. We "know" that because He is God and the Creator of all things, and nothing is too hard for Him. However, God doesn't usually work against His natural laws - laws that HE HIMSELF put in place at...
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    Daniel 12: 11

    Shabbat shalom, veteran. Time to check your glasses! What I SAID was that the Scribes and Pharisees were the ones who overspread their abominations among the Hebrews in Yeshua`s lifetime! It was BECAUSE of that overspreading that Yeshua` made it (the city) "desolate!" Furthermore, just because...
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    The Trees of Eden...Went down into HELL

    Shabbat shalom, whirlwind. It's no deception to use our words "the crocodile" to translate the Hebrew word "hataniym!" That's what the word means! What other "huge dragon" does Egypt have if not a Nile crocodile?! Don't be devoid of wisdom in your quest for understanding! If you can't learn...
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    The Trees of Eden...Went down into HELL

    Shalom, whirlwind. If you are not willing to see this historically ... you will not see, you will not understand. Ezekiel 29-32 29:1 On the twelfth day of the tenth month of the twelfth year, the word of Adonai came to me: 2 “Human being, turn your face against Pharaoh king of Egypt; prophesy...