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@marks, or Mjh29. if either of you can reconcile the John 1:3 and Isaiah 44:24 question, looking to hear from either of you, be blessed. PICJAG.

I did see post #727. get back to me on it if it don't answer your question PICJAG

While we wait on Mjh29 in reconciling of John 1:3 and Isaiah 44:24. one problem that the UPC Oneness have is this. if God is the same and ON what question, please give me the post #, I must have missed that.

ok, if they are not the same PERSON, the one in John 1:3 said to "MAKE" all things. and he is identified as the Word, (Jesus the Son). but the person in Isaiah 44:24 who said he "MADE" all things by himself, and he said that he was alone when he made all things. this person holds the title...

Thanks, so the "LORD" and the "Lord" is the same person, correct? PICJAG

thanks for the reply. YES, we know Jesus is the WAY, but is the Lord Jesus in John 1:3 the same person there in Isaiah 44:24. yes or no? PICJAG.

many say Jesus, (the son) and YHWH (the Father), are two separate and distinct persons. iif not tell us who the Father and the Son are then. PICJAJ

no worries

who's arguing? what's the problem is you cannot reconcile John 1:3 and Isaiah 44:24 as the same person. because if you do, by telling the truth it would destroy your trinity belief. PICJAG

dave, you can call diversified oneness all the names you can come up with. but until you or one of your fellow believer can answer or reconcile John 1:3 and Isaiah 44:24 as the same person, your points are mute.... NOTHING. PICJAG.

you say....... :D no answer to John 1:3 and Isaiah 44:24?............ PICJAG

No split, just "shared"... :cool: PICJAG, any reconciling on John 1:3 and Isaiah 44:24. dave we're going to put this before you all the time. so, at least you can "rightly divide" the word of TRUTH.

@marks My sources for these definitions are Vine's Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words Mickelson's Enhanced Strong's Dictionaries of the Greek and Hebrew Testaments PICJAG.

sure, no problem. diversity is just another WORD for "Offspring". scripture, Revelation 22:16 "I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star". and the Greek definition of "Offspring" is...

Just as much as this voice from heaven that spoke the truth. Genesis 22:11 "And the angel of the LORD called unto him out of heaven, and said, Abraham, Abraham: and he said, Here am I. Genesis 22:12 "And he said, Lay not thine hand upon the lad, neither do thou any thing unto him: for now I...

why Florida? too many gators, and snakes down there for me. (the two legged kind), ... just kidding. but wr're in the 70's again today and the sun is out and bright. caught a round rainbow in back yard this morning

this was not posted for a debate, nor argument, but enlightment by "discussion", but I don't want to hijack the OP topic. I have a discussion on this topic in "Jesus the Holy Spirit" in the debate forum. but thanks for your understanding of the viewpoint better! be blessed.

no, You still have an insurmountable problems with God as three distinct persons throughout the Bible" sorry dave, there is no 3 persons. and as stated before, show scripture that says the voice from heaven, there at the baptism is God the Father voice? book chapter and verse please. and your...

The Plurality of God as his OWN Another. II "The ARM of God" Picking up where we left off at, God's "OWN" arm is he, himself "shared" in flesh, as a man, with the title "Son". Isaiah chapter 53 makes proof of this assessment. and this is backed up in, Philippians 2:6-8 "Who, being in the form...

this is the beauity of Diversified Oneness, #1. the Son Standing in the water at his baptism is the "Share" of God in flesh, per Phil 2:6-8. #2. the Holy Spirit desending in the likeness as a Dove. #3. what I'm about to say is not for argument .. ok, but for scriptual FACTS. please show from...