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  1. Douggg

    ISLAM IS NOT THE REVELATION BEAST

    Right, what IV Antiochus did was a preview for what the end times abomination of desolation of Daniel 12:11-12 will be. Yes, Jesus in Matthew 24:15 prophesied about what Daniel spoke about in Daniel 12:11-12. Daniel 12:11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the...
  2. Douggg

    ISLAM IS NOT THE REVELATION BEAST

    The vile person in Daniel 11:21 is NOT referring to the end times little horn person. of Daniel 8. The vile person in Daniel 11:21 is referring to Antiochus IV. Antiochus IV was responsible for the historic abomination of desolation, a stature image of Zeus placed in the temple. Likewise...
  3. Douggg

    ISLAM IS NOT THE REVELATION BEAST

    2300 days before Jesus returns, the daily sacrifices will begin again. The 7 years is 2520 days long. So we are talking about 220 days after the 7 years begin, the daily sacrifices will begin again.
  4. Douggg

    SATAN NOT CAST OUT YET

    Davy, I did not say anything about "dimension?. The cosmos, the second heaven, where all the stars are, has an end to it - and there the third heaven begins. God is so far above anyone in creation to comprehend. ------------------------------------------------------ Jesus is God, God coming...
  5. Douggg

    SATAN NOT CAST OUT YET

    Revelation 12:7-8 is talking about a future war to take place in the second heaven - i.e. the cosmos, where the stars are. Satan and his angels will be cast down to earth, no longer allowed to roam the second heaven. First heaven is the earth's atmosphere. Second heaven is the cosmos, where...
  6. Douggg

    ISLAM IS NOT THE REVELATION BEAST

    The point is that the AoD follows the ToD.
  7. Douggg

    Maybe I Am Not Understanding the Post Tribulation Rapture. - Can You Help?

    The white robes are both clothing and symbolic. No one is going to be running around naked in heaven. If I understand you correctly, you hold to the post trib resurrection/rapture view ?
  8. Douggg

    Maybe I Am Not Understanding the Post Tribulation Rapture. - Can You Help?

    Jesus's Second Coming is referring to His return to earth in Revelation 19. Differently, Jesus coming for the resurrection/rapture event will be before the wrath of God is poured out in the great tribulation. 1Thessalonians5:9. 9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain...
  9. Douggg

    Maybe I Am Not Understanding the Post Tribulation Rapture. - Can You Help?

    "to be clothed" Paul was speaking about the spiritual body that individual believers in Christ will receive when they die and their souls go to heaven. And that spiritual body being clothed in white robes and not be naked. Paul was not speaking about bodies being brought with Jesus when He...
  10. Douggg

    Maybe I Am Not Understanding the Post Tribulation Rapture. - Can You Help?

    No, in 1Corinthians15:49, Paul is simply saying when the resurrection/rapture event takes place the changed bodies will be glorified in appearance. 1Corinthains15:49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.
  11. Douggg

    Maybe I Am Not Understanding the Post Tribulation Rapture. - Can You Help?

    What ? No, the resurrection of the bodies does not take place in heaven. But here on earth. When a Christian dies, their dead bodies don't go to heaven, but remain on earth and begin to decay. At open casket funerals of Christians, their dead bodies are clearly in the casket. Their...
  12. Douggg

    Maybe I Am Not Understanding the Post Tribulation Rapture. - Can You Help?

    Why are you not considering what it says in 1Thessalonians4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. Obviously that verse is referring to the souls of the dead in Christ. Jesus will be coming from heaven, bringing...
  13. Douggg

    Maybe I Am Not Understanding the Post Tribulation Rapture. - Can You Help?

    The souls of the dead in Christ move before their bodies are resurrected as Jesus will bring their souls from heaven when he comes to resurrect their bodies from the dust of the earth. Concerning the living in Christ, their bodies will be changed as they are being moved.
  14. Douggg

    Maybe I Am Not Understanding the Post Tribulation Rapture. - Can You Help?

    The uniqueness of the movement in 1Thessalonians4:17 is that it involves changing of the body from mortal to immortal, at the very beginning of the movement.
  15. Douggg

    Maybe I Am Not Understanding the Post Tribulation Rapture. - Can You Help?

    `Let's say you are standing in the street and a speeding car hits your body, is your body changed at the time of impact or after you have been moved ? The impact changes your body, not the movement. The rapture portion of 1Thessalonians4:14-18 is not just movement. The see the...
  16. Douggg

    Maybe I Am Not Understanding the Post Tribulation Rapture. - Can You Help?

    John 3:6 is talking about the spiritual rebirth of the soul - i.e. born again (verse 7). 1Corinthians15:50 is talking about the body has to be changed. Salvation is of two parts: 1. redemption of the soul (> born again, upon believing in Jesus's death and resurrection for the atonement of our...
  17. Douggg

    Maybe I Am Not Understanding the Post Tribulation Rapture. - Can You Help?

    The rapture involves the changing of the body of the living in Christ into eternal life everlasting bodies, not just caught up. The dead in Christ will also be changed into eternal everlasting bodies, but they are resurrected for that to happen, not raptured for that to happen. The...
  18. Douggg

    Maybe I Am Not Understanding the Post Tribulation Rapture. - Can You Help?

    The event is the resurrection/rapture . 1Corinthians15: 51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be...
  19. Douggg

    Maybe I Am Not Understanding the Post Tribulation Rapture. - Can You Help?

    The rapture is the changing of the bodies of the living in Christ into everlasting eternal life bodies. Seconds before then, the bodies of the dead in Christ are resurrected from the dust of the earth, and reunited with their souls that Jesus will bring with Him., likewise, into everlasting...