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To keep out of trouble I simply believe that prior to Gen 1:1 and John 1:1 The Father existed The HS existed Christ in some intelligent form existed

Rom 14:10, 1 Cor 10-15, 2 Cor 5:10 BEMA the Judgement Seat of Christ is only for believers saved by the Gal 1:11-12 Gospel taught to Paul by Christ. Will Moses, David, Abraham etc be there ? No, they were saved in a different age. +++++ Today the saving Gospel that applies is :- Gal 1:11-12...

and the confusion rages on here. You gotta do this, you gotta do that and if you don't you're not saved or never were or will lose it. Then when asked where Paul teaches it they go to another Apostle and grab correct teachings that are time/audience specific. To be saved/justified/sealed today...

Your failure to show where Paul teaches works, performance, not sinning, water baptism etc as a condition of justification confirms that Christ through Paul did not teach it, if He did you would list the verses from Paul :)

Yes, that's also how I see it. I don't see any significant time gap between 16 & 17. 1 Thess 4:16 ... and the dead in Christ shall rise first: We then go and join them in the clouds 1 Thess 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds

So only the early Acts parts that suit you , no surprise :) +++ Do you reject the Gospel taught to Paul by Christ ? Gal 1:11-12 11But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man. 12For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the...

Do you reject the Gospel taught by Christ to Paul ? Gal 1:11-12 11But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man. 12For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ. 1 Cor 15:1-4 1Moreover, brethren, I...

Have you done the following ? If not, why not ? :) Acts 2: 44And all that believed were together, and had all things common; 45And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.

Gal 1:11-12 11But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man. 12For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ. 1 Cor 15:1-4 1Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you...

and here it is, are you listenning ? Gal 1:11-12 11But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man. 12For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ. 1 Cor 15:1-4 1Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the...

Do you reject the 1 Cor 15:1-4, Eph 1:13 Gospel that Christ taught to Paul in Gal 1:11-12 ? Gal 1:11-12 11But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man. 12For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ. 1...

and what is the Gospel that Paul teaches ? The one that Christ taught him in Gal 1:11-12 And what is that Gospel ? 1 Cor 15:1-4 1Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2By which also ye are saved, if ye...

I'm glad you went to that link and read and understood it all. Doctrine.org Thanks to another user here I found that link and have seen many accurate articles that confirm the teachings from many other Pastors worldwide. Here is another great teaching :)

Looks like I'm not the only one who believes in the unique teachings of Paul. I have seen other post that concur with me :)

1 Thess 4:17 says :- Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. To me it looks like WE are joining THEM in the clouds very quickly

In other words, the Gospel that Paul taught has differences to the Gospel that Peter taught Hopefully this will help you :) Credit to a previous poster on this forum for the link. https://doctrine.org/the-gospel-of-the-kingdom

Where does Paul in Eph 1:13 teach LAY HANDS AND PRAY to receive the HS as in Acts 8:14-18 ? Where does Paul teach ALL believers sold everything inc homes and land and ALL were together as in Acts 2 :44-45, Acts 4:32-37

Looking at 1 Thess 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Where does that verse teach how long THEM are in the clouds waiting for WE ?

I'm heartbroken EB :)

How is the Holy Spirit received according to what Peter taught in Acts 2:37-38, Acts 8:14-17 compared to Paul in Eph 1:13 ?