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Peter was not saved when he denied the Lord. In fact, none of the disciples were saved until Jesus appeared to them… For: “Afterward [Jesus] appeared unto the eleven as they sat at meat, and upbraided them with their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they believed not them which had...

Pray tell, what are “the gentile church” being cut off from in his scripture?hmmx1:

“Us” are the saved. You rather believe a feel good false doctrine than to be trained in the fear of God by the word.

You don’t want to see, that’s all. “Cut off” means separation from all the benefits bestowed from God, which would obviously include retraction of the Holy Spirit.

The correct answer is not listed. Believe the gospel, baptism in water, and continuing in the faith grounded and settled.

“Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.” (Rom 11:22, KJV) :IDK:

“…if we deny him, he also will deny us…” (2Ti 2:12, KJV) hmmx1:

“And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots: And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD…” (Isa 11:1-2, KJV)

Me watching the Trump haters daily… :watching and waiting:

First, you post the exact scripture that says once you’re saved you are always saved. :watching and waiting:

Salvation can be lost. How is this even a topic of debate? Pull out your Holy Bible and look into it. Don’t listen to the flattery of men.

“For we must needs die, and are as water spilt on the ground, which cannot be gathered up again; neither doth God respect any person: yet doth he devise means, that his banished be not expelled from him.” (2Sa 14:14, KJV)

The suggestion that God would create souls to go to the lake of fire without a chance to escape by means of redemption is so unbiblical on so many levels.

Wescott & Hort… Instruments of Satan.

Wine and hearty bread, not grape juice and crackers! Man always tampering with biblical things.

Why don’t you just tell me what you believe with scripture references so I can understand exactly what you’re alluding to… Forgive me, I haven’t been following this thread lately.

Look, the scriptures I provided explain the matter clearly. I’m not joining you into whatever rabbit hole false doctrine you been corrupted with…

They will populate the new earth: “And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.” (Revelation 21:1, KJV) That it? Was that supposed to be a “gotcha” moment?

I believe in scripture obedience.

More like a discussion to make void scripture…