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  1. BARNEY BRIGHT

    New heaven new earth???

    I understand that you and I are going to disagree. You haven't said anything I've hadn't heard before from others, just as these others haven't convinced me I'm wrong neither have you. So like I said we're going to have to agree to disagree.
  2. BARNEY BRIGHT

    New heaven new earth???

    Then you don't even know the world you live in. Christendom has always said that only those who believe in the Trinity doctrine, immortality of the soul, and the hellfire doctrine are Christians and I've grew up with people saying if you don't believe in these doctrines you're not a Christian...
  3. BARNEY BRIGHT

    New heaven new earth???

    And I will always say shame on you and those like you who say evil is what God knowingly brought into this world. Just because you and others say that God knew that the Angel he created would be a Satan and a Devil doesn't make that true. Also if saying that God didn't know that the Angel he...
  4. BARNEY BRIGHT

    New heaven new earth???

    I believe that God sent his only begotten Son to die as a sacrifice for mankind because that's what the scriptures tell me. (John 3:16; 1John 4:9) If you and others want to believe it was God who became human, that's your right. I believe however that's denying it was the Only-Begotten Son of...
  5. BARNEY BRIGHT

    New heaven new earth???

    Ronald Nolette said: none claim exclusivity like the Watchtower.[/Quote\] Like I said Christendom, which includes all churches that say doctrines such as the Trinity, immorality of the Soul and Hellfire, are the only true religious organization that has the True God Holy Spirit, because they...
  6. BARNEY BRIGHT

    New heaven new earth???

    Yes I am a baptized member Ronald, have been for a long time. Like I said you don't know what you're talking about when you talk about the watchtower. What a person has to exercise faith in to be saved, is that God sent his son as a human to sacrifice his humanity to save humanity. Which is...
  7. BARNEY BRIGHT

    New heaven new earth???

    Ronald Nolette quoted: Isaiah 45:7 I form the light and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things." So why does Isaiah 45:7 state that Jehovah God creates evil, when we know him to be good and righteous in all his ways? Isaiah 45:7 states: “I form the...
  8. BARNEY BRIGHT

    New heaven new earth???

    Ronald Nolette said: And the majority will not be destroyed but cast alive in the lake of fire to suffer the punishment of rejecting the physical resurrection of Jesus for their sin! That is the Bible. It is the Watchtower that falsely teaches annihilationism.[/Quote\] Do you think that death...
  9. BARNEY BRIGHT

    New heaven new earth???

    Well you're really screwed up about what the watchtower says, because they have never said to me to put the Bible down. They don't care what version of the Bible you use, they certainly haven't ever told me to put the Bible and only use watchtower magazines. Now the baptized members of the...
  10. BARNEY BRIGHT

    New heaven new earth???

    You say that it was God will for Adam to be obedient but then you say God couldn't create a loving man. I agree that Adam had to choose to love God in the way God intended but the fact that God wanted Adam to choose to love him shows that God created Adam so that he could love God in the way he...
  11. BARNEY BRIGHT

    New heaven new earth???

    Ronald David Bruno said: You assume God will sustain the universe forever. Scripture says He will destroy it and you do not want to accept that. Fine, hold your view.[/Quote\] Yes I'll continue to say what I believe the scriptures say on this issue. Let us agree to disagree. Ronald David...
  12. BARNEY BRIGHT

    New heaven new earth???

    Ronald Nolette said: The new is a new earth planet and new universe! Just like the bible says.[/Quote\] The Bible uses the phrase, "New Heaven and New Earth," several times in the scriptures and the scriptures don't go along with what you're saying. You can find in the scriptures where this...
  13. BARNEY BRIGHT

    New heaven new earth???

    God doesn't want anyone to be destroyed so I speak even though there will be those numbering far more than JW and what I believe the truth is. Just because the majority believe they are right about something doesn't mean it's necessarily true. The majority among humanity have always thought they...
  14. BARNEY BRIGHT

    New heaven new earth???

    Shows you don't know what the watchtower says and because you don't know what they teach, aren't you spreading lies about them? The watchtower doesn't teach the 1000 year reign of Jesus Christ is symbolic or that the Messianic kingdom is symbolic they teach that the Messianic kingdom is a...
  15. BARNEY BRIGHT

    New heaven new earth???

    You said to me, "So you think the sun will never burn out?" Isn't this showing me you have no faith. What I mean is, you believe God can create possibly billions of suns but the True God can't sustain these suns from burning out because according to you the True God can create our sun but he...
  16. BARNEY BRIGHT

    New heaven new earth???

    All these things you said I've heard before. The thing is, I've always believed God is love. Those three words, "God is love" tells me much about the True God. Like for instance, when God created the first human Adam, and placed him on earth in the garden of Eden, it's was God's will for humans...
  17. BARNEY BRIGHT

    New heaven new earth???

    I've told you about how I believe about such scriptures as Revelation 21:23 before but I know you're not going to agree so you and I will have to agree to disagree. I'm not going to repeat the same information to you and I'm not going to agree with the same information you're saying to me. We're...
  18. BARNEY BRIGHT

    New heaven new earth???

    Does the scripture 2Peter 3: 7,10 mean that the literal planet Earth is to be consumed by fire, then the literal heavens (the stars and other heavenly bodies) are also to be destroyed by fire. I believe such a literal view, conflicts with the assurance contained in such scriptures as Matthew...
  19. BARNEY BRIGHT

    Should Christians eat pork? Drink alcohol? Celebrate Christmas?

    There's nothing wrong with eating pork which is food, and as long as you don't get drunk, there's nothing wrong in drinking alcohol. However it's always been wrong to try and take what is about false gods and applying it to True worship of the True God. Christmas is from paganism which is about...
  20. BARNEY BRIGHT

    New heaven new earth???

    I disagree that the physical universe including our planet Earth will be destroyed.