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  1. David in NJ

    SDAs, USA and the End times.

    ABSOLUTELY = Just as i keep pointing to from the Holy Scriptures The Lord Jesus Christ clarified three Truths of the 7th day under the law of Moses. a.) It is lawful to do "Good" on the saturday sabbath of the law of Moses = love thy neighbor and do not wait for sunday b.) the Lord Jesus...
  2. David in NJ

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    that is your own take Listen to these Living Words To those who have obtained like precious faith with us by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ: Grace and peace be multiplied to you in the knowledge of God and of Jesus our Lord, as His divine power has given to us all...
  3. David in NJ

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Peter never said it was directed to Israel for he writes to "Blood Washed Saints" which Israel rejected = 1 Peter 1:3-5 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His abundant mercy has begotten us again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ...
  4. David in NJ

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    This was my 'hidden ace' = slang for 'i know what they cannot see'
  5. David in NJ

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    i AGREE with you
  6. David in NJ

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    We fully agree with "It is written" Personally, if and when i am corrected by scripture thru a Brother or Sister who points to the Truth, i delight in the Truth and let go of that conflict which i was holding unto. Lose and you WIN type of Reality
  7. David in NJ

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    JESUS says "ABSOLUTELY NOT" Why are you contradicting Christ and the Apostles??? Rapture before Wrath is what JESUS Says and the Apostles and the OT prophets and Revelation
  8. David in NJ

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    His 2nd Coming and the Resurrection occur BEFORE the Rapture = 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18
  9. David in NJ

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Scripture that declares this (i am not disagreeing but we must be specific)
  10. David in NJ

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    the earthbound nation is just one group awaiting Salvation for they have not yet been restored by God = read Romans chapters 9 thru 11 What about the Blood Washed Saints = both Jew and Gentile who make up the Body of Christ = are we awaiting Salvation as well?
  11. David in NJ

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Who exactly is waiting for this salvation? Only them and not us gentiles who believe the Gospel?
  12. David in NJ

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    No one is denying to whom Peter was writing to = except yourself, when you limit the Holy Spirit who is the Author of Peter's words. The LORD ascended to Heaven to the Throne of His FATHER and is no longer here earth = or is HE? Peter has died, his body to the grave, his spirit/soul to Christ...
  13. David in NJ

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Where does it state that the Holy Spirit was only speaking thru Peter to only those Jews at that time.
  14. David in NJ

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Therefore 1 & 2nd Peter does not belong to Peter, nor is it limited to those he wrote to, neither is it 'past tense' scriptural truth.
  15. David in NJ

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Are the two letters of Peter from himself only or did the Holy Spirit move in Peter to write what he wrote???
  16. David in NJ

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    AGREE Is Peter the author of Scripture?
  17. David in NJ

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    YEP = BEFORE the FLOOD When does this occur = according to JESUS in Matthew ch24
  18. David in NJ

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    OK - Let us begin in Matt ch24 - point out the two separate 'comings' that you claim JESUS spoke of
  19. David in NJ

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Let us examine this more closely. Where in Peter's writings does he exclude Blood Washed Gentile believers?
  20. David in NJ

    The one who is still to come

    Did not the FATHER come with JESUS the first time???