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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I don't understand your question. How does that not make sense? What does the belief that Christ will come back and rule on earth for 1k years have to do with understanding his return will coincide with the New Jerusalem?
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    No problem WPM. Which premils? I don't understand that question. Some Premils see Christ 2nd coming happening with the New Jerusalem. Example: They dont believe that the New Jerusalem comes after his 1,000 year reign. It comes with his 2nd advent when the bride makes herself ready.
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I come to that conclusion because I speak to other Christians in Christian circles face to face. The idea that no Pre-Millennials believe that is false. Is it the dominant belief? Only God knows. If I had to guess, I'd say it wasn't.
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    You don't know what you did? Ok, I'll repost it. You replied to me from my reply to Spiritual Israelite, Premillennialism must ignore Revelation 3:11-12, which, whilst speaking of the coming of Christ, describes the accompanying descent of the heavenly abode. There was no reason to reply to me...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I think you look to argue with others instead of engaging with them about the word of God. Maybe I'm wrong and I constantly misinterpret your writing. Did I make an argument to Spiritual Israelite or did I agree and make a statement? I agreed with him and made a statement. Please don't try to...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    There are many pre-millennials that believe that just as there are many that believe it’s after a thousand year reign.
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    2 Months and 1/2 Are Left Until the Two Witnesses of Revelation Appear

    Your previous job has no bearing on who or what you know. And if you feel God called you to preach, that’s wonderful. Those are 2 subjects that arnt issues. The issue is your response to people is not Christ like. You destroy all people that don’t understand? What believer talks like that...
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    Is the last antichrist beast a dead man made alive again?

    Ok, let's look at the context again. 4That thou shalt take up this proverb against the king of Babylon, and say, How hath the oppressor ceased! the golden city ceased! -Was Satan ever called King of Babylon? -What is the golden city that Satan rules over since you believe this is about him...
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    2 Months and 1/2 Are Left Until the Two Witnesses of Revelation Appear

    Why are you, as a self professing Christian, speaking to another in such a way? Is this Christ like? Since when do believers "debate to win" when speaking God's words and things pertaining to his coming? I don't agree with everything @Ronald David Bruno says, but there is never a reason for...
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    Is the last antichrist beast a dead man made alive again?

    Can you write everything in 1 instead of multiple entries. it makes it much easier to read and reply to. Another example. Since the word lucifer comes from Jermone's Latin Vulgate, let's see what else he put in there. Job 11:17 Et quasi meridianus fulgor consurget tibi ad vesperam; et cum te...
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    Will you be caught up in the rapture or left-behind??

    So, your timeline has the door closing (most likely) at the 6th seal? What verse in the 6th seal gives you evidence of that?
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    Is the last antichrist beast a dead man made alive again?

    As I stated earlier, though you only disagreed with my first point and numerous theologians agree it is not a proper name who you would also have to counter. This is why I believe; which you don't have to. Opposing 1 thing is not enough when scripture sheds light on multiple people trying to...
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    2 Months and 1/2 Are Left Until the Two Witnesses of Revelation Appear

    If you cannot understand poetic language, you cannot understand this: And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth Or their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city,--- where also our Lord was crucified. Christ was not crucified in any street, or any other...
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    Is the last antichrist beast a dead man made alive again?

    Hmm, John 8:44 says, Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. Who did...
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    Is the last antichrist beast a dead man made alive again?

    8The cedars in the garden of God could not rival it; the cypresses could not compare with its branches, nor the plane trees match its boughs. No tree in the garden of God could compare with its beauty. 9I made it beautiful with its many branches, the envy of all the trees of Eden, which were in...
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    Is the last antichrist beast a dead man made alive again?

    Why I believe lucifer is Not Satan. 1. lucifer is not a personal name. It is a description. Example: Using lucifer in its proper English reading would look like: "Day star, son of the morning"aka Morning star. Neither of which is a personal name. 2. The word heylel describes bringing in...
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    2 Months and 1/2 Are Left Until the Two Witnesses of Revelation Appear

    That is fine if you don't care what Gill says. But the Bible says in Revelation 1:20 a lampstand represents a church. It never shows it represents 1 individual person. When language uses both such as: These witnesses are the two olive trees and the two lampstands Otherwise, you are favoring...
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    Will you be caught up in the rapture or left-behind??

    Let me get this right. You're saying, Jesus comes to resurrect the saints. Then he leaves and returns to Heaven. Then at the end of 7 years, he leaves Heaven with us back to earth to set up his kingdom? How does he leave heaven twice: 1st to come and resurrect us, and 2nd to come back to start...
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    2 Months and 1/2 Are Left Until the Two Witnesses of Revelation Appear

    We don't know if the 11th horn is Antichrist. That is an assumption by many. Is it possible? Sure. We do know the horn with a mouth speaking blasphemy is the man of sin. Some people tend to believe that. Personally, I don't know. I understand the rationalizing behind that theory. Currently, I'm...
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    Will you be caught up in the rapture or left-behind??

    I'm not asking when you were born David. :) I am asking, where do you place the door closing within Revelation? Specifically, Chapter and verse. Where do you place the door closing in your timeline ie. Before the seals, before the trumpets, before the bowls...somewhere else? Provide a breakdown...