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  1. Butch5

    How To Get To Heaven When You Die

    I agree! According to my studies He's not long in coming. If you're familiar with the 6000 years teaching of the early Christians we're coming very close to that time. I think you're going to see things get contractually worse from this point on.
  2. Butch5

    The Nicene Creed is not Christian

    OK, but don't you see, there is no difference between the brain or mind and the water. You have to use your brain to meet God and you have to use the water to meet God. These are the methods that God has chosen to use.
  3. Butch5

    Unveiling The Deity Of Jesus!

    Hi Emeke, It seems to me that you hold to the Anthanasian view of the Trinity. I would submit that you have several errors in the about post in regard to who Jesus is. You said, "The three of them, are exactly one entity." This is a contradiction and simply cannot be. Three persons cannot be...
  4. Butch5

    The Nicene Creed is not Christian

    It seemed like you were agreeing with me, but then said, water has no power. I didn't say that it was the water that did anything. Scripture also says that one has to believe to saved. Does that mean the brain has some power to save a person? How is the brain any different than the water? It's...
  5. Butch5

    How To Get To Heaven When You Die

    I hear you. There is some danger though in having a wrong understanding. Some things are OK to leave alone some things are dangerous to leave alone. For instance, the debate about whether there is a pre-trib rapture or not. Those who hold that there is one expect to be taken out of the world...
  6. Butch5

    How To Get To Heaven When You Die

    Actually, there is quite a bit in the Scriptures about this. I think it's pretty clear what they say. I think Idea that man lives on after death is an idea that comes from Greek philosophy and Gnosticism.
  7. Butch5

    How To Get To Heaven When You Die

    I believe when a person dies they are dead. I don't see how a dead person can sleep.
  8. Butch5

    The Nicene Creed is not Christian

    This is one doctrine that has much support in Scripture and history. It's odd that some reject it.
  9. Butch5

    The Nicene Creed is not Christian

    I'm not quite seeing your point. I didn't say there was any power in the water. The water is simply where God said to meet Him. Pete explains the process. it is an appeal to God from the heart. The sinner has chosen to believe the Gospel and seeks forgiveness of sins. He goes to the water to...
  10. Butch5

    The Kingdom of Heaven: Unveiling the Mystery

    What's the area code?
  11. Butch5

    The Kingdom of Heaven: Unveiling the Mystery

    Are referring to a rapture of the church prior to the tribulation? If so, I don't believe that is found in Scripture. If you are referring to when Christ returns, Scripture says we will meet Him in the air.
  12. Butch5

    How To Get To Heaven When You Die

    You have to define what you mean by that term. It means different things depending on who you're speaking with.
  13. Butch5

    The Kingdom of Heaven: Unveiling the Mystery

    Raptured and with Christ for seven years?
  14. Butch5

    The Nicene Creed is not Christian

    Actually, these questions are not relevant as to whether or not baptism is necessary for salvation. However, to answer them, we are not told at what point one's sins are forgiven in baptism. When one is baptized he is forgiven for his past sins. 4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and...
  15. Butch5

    Soul sleep is a false doctrine

    I didn't see anything in any of the passages regarding soul sleep. Firstly we need to define what a soul is. A soul according to Gen 2:7 is the combination of a body and the breath/spirit of life. The Breath/spirit of life is something from God, He puts it into a body and that body lives. Since...
  16. Butch5

    How To Get To Heaven When You Die

    Something being condemned by modern Christianity doesn't mean anything as modern Christianity teaches errors. Modern churches are full of false doctrines, so they are not a reliable source of what is Christian.
  17. Butch5

    The Nicene Creed is not Christian

    Hi Wormwood, I agree. I think a lot of the time people reject the idea that baptism saves is because of a misunderstanding about Paul's teaching on works. It seems many people think that baptism constitutes a work and as such reject it on that basis. I would submit that there is a great...
  18. Butch5

    The Nicene Creed is not Christian

    Baptism is an appeal to God. It's an appeal for the forgiveness of sins. It's the mechanism that God has chosen and the place that He has chosen to meet the sinner who desires to repent and is seeking forgiveness of sins. He could have chosen any place or method He desired. He chose water...
  19. Butch5

    The Kingdom of Heaven: Unveiling the Mystery

    Yeah, but one can make just about any claim and take a verse of Scripture out of it's context and claim it says what they claim. You see, in order for anyone to see your point you need to elaborate on the Scripture passages that you use and show how they prove your point. I may see a passage of...