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Sorry GP. I can't do this with you anymore. Your "conclusion", as I have already told/shown you, is based on a false interpretation of Scripture. Therefore, your conclusion, as I have already told you, is null and void. But you keep pressing me and asking me how you have erred. I ALREADY SHOWED...

YOU need to clarify what YOU mean by the Church so that we can have a discussion/debate based on common grounds and understanding.

Which part have I not addressed? I have already addressed your false premise on point #1 that The typological evidence in Scripture points to the Church being the New Eve, which makes point i, ii and iii null and void. I have already addressed point #2 I have already addressed your OPINION...

It does matter what YOUR definition of the Church is in this debate because YOU keep saying the Church. Just to be clear: There is The (capital T) Church which is the Church that Christ started, and the Apostles continued. Under the authority of Christ the Apostles continued The Church and thru...

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Wow.....you got me on that one. So Paul implied something that supports what I have been saying, and his implication is totally opposite of what you have been saying. Gosh....you win!

I don't care what you are looking for. I don't respond to other people on how THEY want me to respond. I wrote what I wrote and if you are too lazy to read thru it and pick apart or respond to my destruction of your false teaching, that is not my problem.....that is your problem.

Post #158, 171 and 177 has shown that you are wrong. And all this is based on your false interpretation of Scripture. What more do you need?

More evidence that your teachers are misleading you: Paul’s statement, “man was not made from woman, but woman from man; neither was man created for woman, but woman for man,” is a callback to Genesis 2:20-22, when the woman was made from the man in order to be his helper. This proposes that...

According to YOU I didn't.....But if you read what I wrote, you would see that I did. You just won't accept it because you don't really want to debate it. You just want to make a statement and if anyone disagrees with you THEY are wrong and YOU are right. Anyways, thats my experience with...

Hold on..........HOLD ON!!! It doesn't matter which Church (denomination) that is currently preaching/teaching here on earth is infallible and the gates of hell would not prevail against? Oh goodness.....

That is NOT what Paul did. He did not identify the Church as the antitype to Eve. Here is what Paul said IN CONTEXT: But I am afraid that as the serpent deceived Eve by its cunning, your thoughts will be led astray from a sincere and pure[a] devotion to Christ. 4 For if someone comes and...

According to YOU Paul demolished our beliefs about Mary. That theory only works if one misinterpreted what Paul said.

Irenaeus erred according to WHO? Just for clarification: You say that "only the Church even could qualify as the New Eve". Who or what is "the Church" according to you?

Post #158.....

Pot calling the kettle black???? I just looked back at all your posts on this thread and you went of topic MANY times and discussed many different things.......And you call me dishonest????? But I digress.....Let's talk about the 2,000 year teaching that I adhere to and the 500 year teaching...

I have been responding to your false and illogical statements, and you don't like it and clearly can't back up what you say. That's fine. I promise I will only talk about Mary as the new Eve from here on out.........:ntmetu

I just responded to your original post. Good luck.........

Hi GP, Who taught you that "the Bible teaches that only the Church could be the New Eve"? What I have been taught is that because of Eve’s disobedience to God and Adam’s cooperation with her both of them lost sanctifying grace for themselves and their offspring. Eve and Mary were created full...

Got it.........soooo when you write something illogical and/or not true in your post's you want me to ignore it and not respond to it. I am only allowed to respond to sentences in your post that are on the topic of "Mary as new eve". How am I being deceptive when I ask you to back up what you...