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Apparently I hit a nerve. I wonder what went wrong in your life that you have become that hostile. My final words to you are from Jesus Himself and an universal promise He made. Matt 11:28 Come to me, all who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Matt 11:29 Take my yoke upon...

But still Agnostic, interesting.

I am still intrigued by : Gen 1:2 The earth was without form and void, and darkness was over the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters. It does not read as if it was only for a few seconds. And... the universe is a violent place, we are lucky Earth...

And even so, the order of creation, Gen 1:3 And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. Sun light reaches Earth. Gen 1:6 And God said, “Let there be an expanse in the midst of the waters, creation of the atmosphere. Gen 1:11 And God said, “Let the earth sprout vegetation...

And another question, why? 1 John 1:5 This is the message we have heard from him and proclaim to you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. Why the darkness on the earth without form and void. Does it represent something spiritual?

That's exactly how Genesis 1 is written, in the Jewish framework later revealed in the Exodus passage you quoted.

Well, you are here, on a Bible forum, for 4 years I can see, with more than 2300 posts, what am I suppose to think? Most of the time, knowledge of self is important. To a certain extend. I wouldn't call it the wealth of the world, more a blessing if one is able.

Exactly assumptions. I love science. But only the facts. The age of the Earth once was an important issue for my critical brain, but no longer.

Does not sound very OSAS to me.

Exactly, it ain't over till death. Rev 2:10 Do not fear what you are about to suffer. Behold, the devil is about to throw some of you into prison, that you may be tested, and for ten days you will have tribulation. Be faithful unto death, and I will give you the crown of life. Luke 22:31...

Correct. It appears to me I can't have a normal discussion with you.

Like I said in my previous post, the Scriptures were hidden from the people, book printing changed everything. And needless to say, not always for the better.

You knew in advance that's a) a lie and b) an insult to put things this way. The normal thing to say would be something like : I think you misunderstood His words. But you could not resist, now could you? Be well.

No content. Things changed in the 15th century, the invention of printing on paper, making books, putting the Scriptures on paper, the Bible came available to people, the word of God released from the dungeons of the Vatican. A revolution followed, people making up their own mind, diametrical...

Yes, for you, me and likely for the rest of the forum members because we have an interest, not so for average people, they just accept.

But 60.000 years is an assumption, no proof. Don't get me wrong, I have reconciled Creation and Evolution a long time ago, a viable explanation is just there in Genesis 3, but not after reading the story 50 times (or so) and I finally could give the issue a rest.

Speculations become truth for those who trust science blindly.

Accepted by assumption, not proof.

Correct, problem is the method stops working and nobody knows when. 5730 years is testable, 6000-7000 maybe, but with assumed error margins. It's a long time ago (about 25 years) I gave the Creation vs Evolution issue attention (we all have to deal with it) and I remember that 60.000 years...

All the way up to the multiverse, which never can be proven, but because it makes evolution more acceptable. And your kids have to learn it as truth, else they get a bad figure on the school report.