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  1. Douggg

    The battle of Gog and Magog does not happen until after the thousand year reign of Christ

    The beast and the false prophet will be two humans, not angels. Those two humans will be cast into the lake of fire when Jesus returns, in Revelation 19:20. At that same time when Jesus returns, Satan will be cast into the bottomless pit prison, before joining the the beast and false prophet...
  2. Douggg

    The battle of Gog and Magog does not happen until after the thousand year reign of Christ

    No, that's is not what I wrote, said, nor implied. Satan will be imprisoned in the bottomless pit on the day that Jesus returns. And a thousand years later, released for a short time to deceived the nations. Then cast into the lake of fire. The other fallen angels, at the same time as...
  3. Douggg

    the false messianic age and the beginning of the day of the Lord

    On my chart below, you will see the "false messianic age" that begins when the little horn person enters Stage 3 by being anointed the King of Israel thought-to-be messiah. That is when the world will be deluded into saying "peace and safety" as foretold in 1Thessalonians5. The delusion will...
  4. Douggg

    God's "Two Witnesses" Rule The World During The Future Great Tribulation

    The term pre-trib as implied by the proponents of the pre-trib view means "pre-70th week". i.e. the timing of the rapture/resurrection event must take place before the 70th week begins, according to them. However, we don't know exactly when the rapture/resurrection event will take place...
  5. Douggg

    Revelation 14:1 What is going on here?

    No one is saying that Moses planted a garden eastward in Eden. But Moses is the one who did write down what God revealed to him. Do you agree or disagree ? Genesis 2:8 And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed. Moses wrote down what...
  6. Douggg

    The battle of Gog and Magog does not happen until after the thousand year reign of Christ

    Fair enough. Jay, it is not a false claim. The verses describe the earth as having gone through the great tribulation. It is then, right afterward, that the kings of the earth will be judged, slain by Jesus, then their souls and the fallen angels will be placed in hell. Where...
  7. Douggg

    God's "Two Witnesses" Rule The World During The Future Great Tribulation

    No, Matthew 24:31 and Mark 13:27 are referring to the gathering of the Jews to the land of Israel. Matthew 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. Mark 13:27 And then...
  8. Douggg

    The battle of Gog and Magog does not happen until after the thousand year reign of Christ

    2300 evenings and mornings is not "years". Every day has an evening and morning to it. Do you know what the evenings and mornings refers to ? It refers to the two lambs sacrificed every day, one in the morning, one in the evening, that the Jews do when there is a temple standing in...
  9. Douggg

    God's "Two Witnesses" Rule The World During The Future Great Tribulation

    No, the hour of temptation the verse says comes upon all the world. Anyone one earth at that time will be affected. So the verse and verse 11 are a referral to the rapture. 10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall...
  10. Douggg

    Revelation 14:1 What is going on here?

    No, the text does not say eastward of God. Do a copy and paste from the translation you are using. I am quoting from the kjv. Genesis 2:8 And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed. Where was Moses at the time he wrote down...
  11. Douggg

    The TRUE Meaning Of The Little Horn Prophecy For the End

    I agree that the ten horns, the ten kings, do not have their crowns until Revelation 13 to rule with the beast when there are 42 months left before Jesus's return. Those ten individuals are alive today, but yet to be revealed exactly who they are. Certainly though, those ten kings were not in...
  12. Douggg

    The battle of Gog and Magog does not happen until after the thousand year reign of Christ

    The text does not say 2300 years, but 2300 days. So the premise to your 2044 AD theory is wrong, Jay. Also, you are trying to predict that Jesus returns in 2044 AD based on that changing of what the text says. It is 2300 days, not 2300 years. Daniel 8: 13 Then I heard one saint...
  13. Douggg

    The battle of Gog and Magog does not happen until after the thousand year reign of Christ

    Which kings of the earth in Isaiah 24:21-22 do you think the verses are referring to and why ?
  14. Douggg

    Revelation 14:1 What is going on here?

    The text does not say eastward of heaven. Genesis 2:8 And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed. Moses is the one who wrote down Genesis. It was eastward of where Moses was, and eastward of the promised land.
  15. Douggg

    The battle of Gog and Magog does not happen until after the thousand year reign of Christ

    Jay, when Jesus returns, the kings of the earth who gather their armies to make war on Jesus and his army, will be destroyed. Revelation 19:21. verse 19 - (1) the beast king who leads the attempted war (2) the kings of earth (3) and their armies. verse 20 - the beast king and false prophet...
  16. Douggg

    Revelation 13:17-18 (666)

    Ronald, the 666 is the number (not symbol) of a man's name. Revelation 13: 17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. 18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the...
  17. Douggg

    Revelation 14:1 What is going on here?

    We don't know the earliest point at which a third of the angels rebelled convinced to follow Satan in his rebellion. Satan himself appears to have rebelled before the creation of Adam and Eve, since by acting through the serpent in the garden, lied to beguile Adam and Eve to eat from the...
  18. Douggg

    Revelation 14:1 What is going on here?

    The angels in heaven are not God. They are part of God's creation. There is a timeline in heaven that began with creation. Differently, God Himself of course "is", "I AM", before time begins.
  19. Douggg

    Revelation 13:17-18 (666)

    I guess you need to time to figure out how to fit the 42 months of Revelation 13:5 into your historic scenario about the papacy. The beast in Revelation 13:5 in the vision John had was given power to continue 42 months. How does that apply to the papacy ? 5 And there was given unto him a...
  20. Douggg

    Revelation 13:17-18 (666)

    You ask me to comment on what you wrote - and I did. I did not make any personal insults.